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#Post#: 43619--------------------------------------------------
Re: 71 on a 70 road...
DIR By: baroudeur
Date: November 2, 2024, 8:41 am
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--- Quote from: Raykay link ---
>
> That is also in 'The Motor Vehicles (Construction and use)
Regulations 1986'
>
> Unladen Weight.
> "The weight of a vehicle or trailer inclusive of the body and
all parts (the heavier being taken where alternative bodies or
parts are used) which are necessary to or ordinarily used with
the vehicle or trailer when working on a road, but exclusive of
the weight of water, fuel or accumulators used for the purpose
of the supply of power for the propulsion of the vehicle or, as
the case may be, of any vehicle by which the trailer is drawn,
and of loose tools and loose equipment".
>
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To clarify, there is nothing required on a vehicle to indicate
the unladen weight so how will the police decide the weight of a
vehicle? Even DVLA struggle to provide the police with an easy
way to identify, at the roadside, some of the totally weird
specifications relating to vans, MPVs, DPVs, motorhomes and
other vehicles.
#Post#: 43626--------------------------------------------------
Re: 71 on a 70 road...
DIR By: PallasAthena
Date: November 2, 2024, 9:15 am
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--- Quote from: baroudeur link ---
> On your V5C what is entered at K - Vehicle category - M1 or
N1?
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[member=3238]MountainMan[/member] it'll probably be obvious on
your V5C, but the vehicle category is listed at J not K. (Well
it is in the two V5Cs I've got in front of me).
#Post#: 43637--------------------------------------------------
Re: 71 on a 70 road...
DIR By: Raykay
Date: November 2, 2024, 10:10 am
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--- Quote from: baroudeur link ---
>
> To clarify, there is nothing required on a vehicle to indicate
the unladen weight so how will the police decide the weight of a
vehicle? Even DVLA struggle to provide the police with an easy
way to identify, at the roadside, some of the totally weird
specifications relating to vans, MPVs, DPVs, motorhomes and
other vehicles.
>
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That is one of the problems, it is what the vehicle actually is,
not what it is registered as. For example, Vito 5 seaters that
meet the requirements to be a 'Dual Purpose Vehicle' are still
'Light Goods Vehicles', but not subject to the goods vehicle
speed limits, which some authorities fail to identify the
difference. For example the unladen weight may be shown in the
manuacturers vehicle specifications, chassis plate, etc. but not
understood by the authorities.
#Post#: 43739--------------------------------------------------
Re: 71 on a 70 road...
DIR By: MountainMan
Date: November 3, 2024, 8:32 am
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Here's the V5, it says N1.
And to clarify, it's not a crew cab, it's got the two rows of
seats and then it's straight into the boot.
Thanks all!
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#Post#: 43749--------------------------------------------------
Re: 71 on a 70 road...
DIR By: mickR
Date: November 3, 2024, 10:21 am
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I think you'll find the dualiner is classed as a crew cab hence
the N1 code
why not get confirmation with Mercedes based on the chassis No.?
#Post#: 43826--------------------------------------------------
Re: 71 on a 70 road...
DIR By: Raykay
Date: November 4, 2024, 2:21 am
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There is a lot of misunderstanding on the internet etc. in
respect of Dual Purpose Vehcles and speed limits.
The definition of a Dual Purpose Vehicle is in The Road Vehicles
(Construction and Use) Regulations 1986, (nothing to do with the
registration details in that definition - many are N1, Light
Goods, Panel Van etc), all that is required is that the vehicle
meeets that definition.
Dual Purpose Vehicles are in the same group of vehicles for
speed limit purposes as cars, motorcycles, & car-derived-vans in
Sch 6, The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.
#Post#: 43867--------------------------------------------------
Re: 71 on a 70 road...
DIR By: baroudeur
Date: November 4, 2024, 5:43 am
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--- Quote from: Raykay link ---
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> [quote author=baroudeur link=topic=3699.msg43619#msg43619
date=1730554879]
> To clarify, there is nothing required on a vehicle to indicate
the unladen weight so how will the police decide the weight of a
vehicle? Even DVLA struggle to provide the police with an easy
way to identify, at the roadside, some of the totally weird
specifications relating to vans, MPVs, DPVs, motorhomes and
other vehicles.
>
--- End Quote ---
That is one of the problems, it is what the vehicle actually is,
not what it is registered as. For example, Vito 5 seaters that
meet the requirements to be a 'Dual Purpose Vehicle' are still
'Light Goods Vehicles', but not subject to the goods vehicle
speed limits, which some authorities fail to identify the
difference. For example the unladen weight may be shown in the
manuacturers vehicle specifications, chassis plate, etc. but not
understood by the authorities.
[/quote]
The unladen weight in the manufacturer's specification is of the
base vehicle used for Type Approval of that model and does not
include any optional equipment or variations in the
specification of that model. When the application to register a
vehicle is made if that weight is used it will appear on the
V5C. The only way to know the unladen weight is to weigh the
vehicle as used.
Edit: The unladen weight is not required on the vehicle plate
only GVW - GTW - axle 1 - axle 2 weights
#Post#: 43889--------------------------------------------------
Re: 71 on a 70 road...
DIR By: Raykay
Date: November 4, 2024, 7:04 am
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As above, the weight can vary according to the model and shown
in their different specification. For example, there are three
different sizes of Vito, - Compact, Long, and Extra Long, with
three different weights shown.
The 5 seater Vito is normally the compact size, which will be
the lowest.
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