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       Caught speeding twice (maybe more) in 2 days in Wales. Am I
       screwed? 
   DIR By: Taflad
       Date: October 30, 2024, 11:36 am
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       Hi,
       I'm going out of my mind with worry at the moment, as I have
       been caught speeding by the same camera twice (maybe 4 times)
       and have had 2 notice yo prosecute
       Background:
       In Wales, we hjave had new laws introduced to drop speed limit
       from 30mph to 20mph. I live around 50 miles away from the area I
       was caught and hjve never driven there before. On Sunday, I was
       caught doing 28mph in the 20mph area twice within 30 mins. Once
       going up the road and then 20 mins later coming back down. I
       didn't see any speed cameras on the road, although it is a fixed
       camera that caught me.
       In 21 years driving, I have had a completely clean license. I
       have never been caught speeding, have had no accidents etc. I've
       never even been pulled over and cautioned. If it's just these 2
       instances, I will happily take a speed awareness course and the
       3 points / £100 fine.
       However, I had to return to the same place on Monday to pick up
       the item I'd ordered, and can only assume I would have been
       doing above 20 )defo below 30mph though ) again. This means I
       will have 4 instances of speeding in 2 days by the same camera
       I'm very worried as I am the only person that drives in my
       family and have a disabled daughter and 3 other children. I rely
       on my car for work as I often have to work out of hours due to
       my role. This means public transport would not be suitable and
       it is likely I will lose my job if I lose my license.
       Realistically, how likely are South Wales Police going to give
       me the full 12 points? Are there any mitigating circumstances
       that may help me keep my license and keep the fine down?
       Any help is greatly appreciated!
       #Post#: 43191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught speeding twice (maybe more) in 2 days in Wales. Am I
       screwed? 
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: October 30, 2024, 1:52 pm
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       It's a sausage machine; if the computer says 4 you will get 4.
       On the face of it this adds up to 12 points and a totting up ban
       - but hopefully you will offered a course and then it will
       'only' be 9. If it does get to court and 12 points, your family
       situation may be the basis of an Exceptional Hardship argument
       to avoid the ban - but the bar is high these days.
       #Post#: 43333--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Caught speeding twice (maybe more) in 2 days in Wales. Am I
       screwed? 
   DIR By: BertB
       Date: October 31, 2024, 10:14 am
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       Wait for 14 days from last Monday to see if you receive any more
       notifications. If you do, complete each form and return them in
       the same envelope with a cover letter asking if they would
       consider dropping one or more of the offences. If you had been
       stopped at the time, received previous notices, etc, etc, you
       would have had a chance to modify your driving.
       Obviously, you have missed the limit signs at least 4 times in
       this situation. They know that as well, but some forces will
       play the game and agree to drop one and offer a course for
       another leaving you with 6 points.
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