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#Post#: 43163--------------------------------------------------
46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: Trooby
Date: October 30, 2024, 11:11 am
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Hi all
I just received my first notice of intended prosecution of
speeding for around 15 years. I was on the M1 between J15 and
J14 at 2:47am last week when the overheads started flashing 60
so I slowed to 60 with no reasons given. Then it went down to
50 so I complied. Then it showed the 1st two lanes were closed
ahead so I started pulling across ready still doing 50mph. I
had trucks up my arse but I wasn't taking any notice of them.
Then as I approached the two closed lanes, the gantry overhead
showed 40 (for the first time) and I started slowing to 40 from
my steady 50 and the same gantry flashed me. I had trucks
tailgating me (which then pulled out and at least 10 overtook me
during the lane closures).
Today I received the notice of intended prosecution for doing
46mph. The very first gantry at the start of the 2 lane closure
and the very first gantry showing a reduction from 50 to 40.
Surely I can fight this as I was slowing at short notice and I
was doing 46?
Any help would be hugely appreciated as I feel this is very
unjustified. It's Northamptonshire Police.
Thank you!
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Re: 46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: October 30, 2024, 11:26 am
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--- Quote from: Trooby link ---
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> Surely I can fight this as I was slowing at short notice and I
was doing 46?
>
--- End Quote ---
No
#Post#: 43165--------------------------------------------------
Re: 46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: Trooby
Date: October 30, 2024, 11:27 am
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--- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
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> [quote author=Trooby link=topic=3681.msg43163#msg43163
date=1730304689]
> Surely I can fight this as I was slowing at short notice and I
was doing 46?
>
--- End Quote ---
No
[/quote]
So I just have to accept this? I'll be fighting it as it's
pathetic.
#Post#: 43169--------------------------------------------------
Re: 46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: 666
Date: October 30, 2024, 11:40 am
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How do you plan to fight it?
At this stage, all you can do is respond naming the driver. You
should then be offered a speed awareness course (c£90) or a
fixed penalty (£100and 3 points).
The only way to fight it is to ignore or reject those offers,
and plead not guilty when it eventually reaches the court stage.
The police will undoubtably produce photos showing you passing
the gantry at the alleged speed. How will you cast reasonable
doubt on that evidence?
Bear in mind that the cost of the likely failure will be nearer
£1,000 than £100. Plus a day of your time, win or lose.
#Post#: 43171--------------------------------------------------
Re: 46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: Trooby
Date: October 30, 2024, 11:46 am
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Ok, please don't jump on me. I'm only asking as I remember the
old Pepipoo days and things have clearly changed. Its been
years!
I understand this letter is just asking me to admit I was the
driver and I was and I have submitted that. I will not be at
all happy if they whack points on my clean licence and I will be
asking questions if that happens. I'm happy to take the course
if offered despite my opinion on its fairness.
All I am saying is I find it extremely harsh.
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Re: 46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: October 30, 2024, 12:07 pm
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Don't throw your toys out of the pram and you won't be jumped
on.
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Re: 46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: Trooby
Date: October 30, 2024, 12:21 pm
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--- Quote from: andy_foster link ---
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> Don't throw your toys out of the pram and you won't be jumped
on.
>
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What a friendly community. Can't you understand I am annoyed
for OBEYING the limits and the gantry gave me zero chance to
slow down in time? I am not blaming anyone here!
#Post#: 43181--------------------------------------------------
Re: 46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: Trooby
Date: October 30, 2024, 12:25 pm
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Thanks everyone, I'll leave you in peace.
#Post#: 43182--------------------------------------------------
Re: 46mph on M1 on 1st 40mph Gantry
DIR By: 666
Date: October 30, 2024, 12:33 pm
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--- Quote from: Trooby link ---
>
> Ok, please don't jump on me. I'm only asking as I remember
the old Pepipoo days and things have clearly changed. Its been
years!
>
> I understand this letter is just asking me to admit I was the
driver and I was and I have submitted that. I will not be at
all happy if they whack points on my clean licence and I will be
asking questions if that happens. I'm happy to take the course
if offered despite my opinion on its fairness.
>
> All I am saying is I find it extremely harsh.
>
--- End Quote ---
I didn't think I'd jumped!
Anyway, you will almost certainly get the option of a course,
and be able to do it online.
Some regulars on here tend to disparage these courses, but I
don't. I did one recently, and didn't feel judged or patronised.
OK, I didn't learn anything, but then I've worked in road safety
and also lurked on these forums for yonks. I believe the average
"civilian" would have found it useful.
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