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National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: Nick325i
Date: October 30, 2024, 6:36 am
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Hi all,
Thank you in advance. I parked with good intention and paid
online for a bay in an ex-local authority block. I just received
the following notice to keeper and wasn't sure what to do
because I think I have parked in the same bay a couple of times
since and fearing I will get a notice each time. I went back to
take photos and its only now I realised only a couple of bays
were for visitors, I didn't notice it at the time. I spoke to
one of the owners of the private bays and he said people do it
all the time and get fines. I feel it is very deceiving, even if
my photos don't suggest so. DO I have an appeal?
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Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: Nick325i
Date: October 31, 2024, 1:08 pm
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Hi,
Does anyone have any advice on this please?
#Post#: 43388--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 31, 2024, 1:20 pm
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Please do not bump threads, this is a busy forum providing free
advice and run entirely by volunteers, you will not always get
immediate replies.
Can you show us a close up photo of the signage with the terms
and conditions legible?
#Post#: 43725--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: Nick325i
Date: November 3, 2024, 6:45 am
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I don't. I will have to go back although I dont live near there.
I haven't had a private fine for years. In the past the best
thing was to ignore but I am guessing now may be different.
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Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: November 3, 2024, 7:47 am
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> In the past the best thing was to ignore
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In England and Wales, ignoring hasn't been particularly
advisable for many years now.
#Post#: 44273--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: Nick325i
Date: November 6, 2024, 1:25 pm
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OK so I managed to go back and take some photos of the signs.
This seems to be my final day for the 14 though?
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Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: Nick325i
Date: November 6, 2024, 4:45 pm
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I think I posted these photos too late so I am going to muddle
through an appeal before midnight otherwise it rises to £100.
I am guessing I can always contest it again if (when) they
reject my appeal
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Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: Nick325i
Date: November 7, 2024, 3:21 am
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So I sent an appeal close to midnight last night and just after
8.30am this morning I received a rejection (see attached)
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Clearly my appeal wasn't even look at and this rejection is
generic. At least make it look real!
Appeal was as follows,
I am writing to formally appeal the parking charge notice issued
to me on [date of parking] at [location of parking area]. I
appreciate your attention in considering the circumstances I
outline below.
On the day in question, I parked in the designated parking area
and, with full intention to comply with parking requirements,
made a payment through Pay4Bay to cover the duration of my stay.
I completed the payment in good faith, assuming that I had
parked in an eligible visitor’s space as there was no clear
indication to the contrary.
Unfortunately, I now understand that I inadvertently parked in a
private bay adjacent to the visitor bay area. However, I believe
this mistake was due to ambiguous signage, as the private and
visitor bays are directly next to each other, and, on the day
the visitor sign was under a puddle of water. I spoke with a
local resident who told me it is common for people to get
confused there. Given the close proximity of these bays, I did
not see any distinct sign that would have indicated that my
selected space was restricted.
In light of these circumstances, I respectfully request that
this charge be reviewed and canceled, as my actions were taken
in good faith, and I paid the appropriate fee for my stay. I am
attaching a copy of my payment confirmation as evidence of my
intent to adhere to the parking requirements.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to
your understanding and a favorable outcome to this appeal.
Sincerely,
#Post#: 44347--------------------------------------------------
Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: b789
Date: November 7, 2024, 4:55 am
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Did you take any photos of the bays and the markings?
No initial appeal was ever going to be successful. A secondary
appeal to the IAS is not going to succeed either.
You are obviously worried about losing out on the "mugs
discount". However, if you really feel aggrieved by this and
want to fight it, you must disregard the discount.
The only way this is likely to be concluded without you paying
the scammers is by waiting to see if they decide to take this
all the way to the ultimate dispute resolution service, the
small claims track in the county court.
It is up to you to decide whether you want to fight this or give
in to the cowboys.
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Re: National Parking - Vehicle not registered on permit database
DIR By: Nick325i
Date: November 14, 2024, 2:48 am
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OK thank you. I guess I will just hold fire and fight it. Done
it before and been successful. I took photos and sent but the
more I look at them the more I cant believe I missed the fact it
said visitor below. Apparently a lot of people make the same
mistake but its silly really so I am not sure I will have much
of a case in court.
Should I now appeal to the IAS?
Is there anything specific I should include?
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