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57 in a 50 - NIP from GMP
DIR By: grizzzley
Date: October 26, 2024, 4:51 pm
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I have received an NIP from Greater Manchester Police for doing
57 in a 50mph zone on the motorway. Do you think there is any
way of getting out of this? They have a copy of the camera
calibration on the online portal, but the images of the van from
the camera are so bad quality that I cannot make anything out,
including the speed displayed on the motorway gantry.
I have a clean license so would probably get the course, but I
am sure that I wasn't speeding and was sticking to the displayed
speed limits. I was driving a standard size van and as far as I
am aware the speed limit for those is the same as cars?
Also I can't use the 14 day time limit to issue the NIP as it
was a hire van and they issued the original NIP to the hire
company within the 14 days.
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Re: 57 in a 50 - NIP from GMP
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: October 27, 2024, 6:29 pm
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The long and the short of this is that if you decline the course
which will almost certainly be offered, you will be prosecuted
in court.
There the police will produce evidence to show that your
vehicle's speed was detected using an approved device. They will
also be able to show what the prevailing limit was at the time.
Your task will be to cast doubt on that evidence and from what
you say, all you have to help you is "...but I am sure that I
wasn't speeding and was sticking to the displayed speed limits".
It's not too hard to imagine which way the court's decision will
go.
In the event you are convicted you will pay a fine of half a
week's net income, a surcharge of 40% of that fine and
prosecution costs which will be in the region of £650. So no
change from £1k for most people.
You could contact National Highways to check the prevailing
limit. They should have a log of variable speed limit
impositions.
I take it you are the Registered Keeper and that your NIP
arrived within 14 days?
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Re: 57 in a 50 - NIP from GMP
DIR By: tonys
Date: October 28, 2024, 11:23 am
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--- Quote from: grizzzley link ---
>
> I was driving a standard size van and as far as I am aware the
speed limit for those is the same as cars?
--- End Quote ---
Not relevant for this case but it would be worth your while
checking this for the future. I'm not sure what you mean by
"standard size" but Transits and similar have lower limits than
cars.
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Re: 57 in a 50 - NIP from GMP
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: October 28, 2024, 11:50 am
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NSL dual and single carriageway, speed limits for goods vehicles
are 60 and 50 respectively. NSL motorways, restricted roads and
posted limits, same as for cars.
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Re: 57 in a 50 - NIP from GMP
DIR By: grizzzley
Date: October 29, 2024, 10:29 am
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Yeah seems like I just need to bite the bullet and do the
course. Thanks for all the replies.
It was a standard size Transit van, I was under the (incorrect)
impression that they were treated like cars in respect to speed
limits, looks like I need to brush up on my highway code!
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