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#Post#: 42462--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: docklander
Date: October 26, 2024, 7:12 am
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I didnt want to clog up the site or faff with downloads but will
do now.
#Post#: 42465--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: docklander
Date: October 26, 2024, 7:23 am
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HTML https://imgur.com/a/BV1FkLA
that ok?
#Post#: 42466--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: docklander
Date: October 26, 2024, 7:32 am
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What do the signs say at the car park? Not sure, sorry.
Why did the driver think they were exempt from any permit
requirements? Because they were not parking and leaving the
vehicle unattended
#Post#: 42471--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: b789
Date: October 26, 2024, 7:49 am
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--- Quote from: docklander link ---
>
> What do the signs say at the car park? Not sure, sorry.
>
--- End Quote ---
The signs are what form the "contract" that the driver is
alleged to have breached. It doesn't matter whether the driver
bothered to read them or not. It is a contract formed by
conduct.
--- Quote from: docklander link ---
>
> Why did the driver think they were exempt from any permit
requirements? Because they were not parking and leaving the
vehicle unattended
>
--- End Quote ---
The contract will say something such as "by remaining on the
private property the driver agrees..." Just because the vehicle
was not left unattended does not mean that it wasn't allowed to
remain on private property.
GroupNexus will not accept any appeal but you will be able to
try and appeal to POPLA after the initial rejection although, it
is also very unlikely that POPLA will be successful either. The
most likely way this will be concluded is if it goes to court.
For now, simply appeal as the keeper only with the following:
--- Quote ---
> This is an appeal by the registered keeper - No driver details
will be given. Please do NOT try the usual Group Nexus trick of
asking for driver details in order to get around the fact your
NtK does not fully comply with PoFA. As there is no keeper
liability, therefore, liability cannot flow from the driver to
the keeper and so, is an automatic win at POPLA. Please cancel
the notice or issue a POPLA code at which point you will auto
withdraw.
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 42478--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: docklander
Date: October 26, 2024, 8:33 am
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On the appeal page, which option as I have to choose one:
Tick here to confirm that you were the driver and that the PCN
you have received contains the correct information
Tick here to confirm that you were not the driver or that the
PCN you have received contains incorrect information
#Post#: 42484--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: b789
Date: October 26, 2024, 8:57 am
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You're appealing as the keeper only. Unless there's an option to
select other or keeper only, don't use their online appeals.
Send your appeal as an email attachment to them or post it. Your
choice.
#Post#: 42502--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: docklander
Date: October 26, 2024, 9:48 am
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There is no option to appeal by email. In fact their website
says:
For appeals, please use the green button, top right, or visit
the PCN and Appeals Contact page.
An appeal sent to the ‘Info’ or ‘media’ email addresses, or via
the form below, will not go to the correct department. Therefore
it will not be accepted as an appeal and will not be processed.
Does anyone have an email for them or does this mean I have to
write to them? If this doesnt work, does the £50 charge stay for
over 14 days if I lodge the appeal within that time?
Thanks
#Post#: 42508--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: b789
Date: October 26, 2024, 10:01 am
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If you're considering the "mugs discount" then just go ahead and
pay it. If you want to appeal, then just select you were not the
driver, even if you were. It's not a statement of truth and it
is the only option they have given you which removes your right
to not disclose the drivers identity, which is entrapment... or
just post it to them by snail mail but ideally, get a free
"certificate of posting" from any post office.
#Post#: 42563--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 26, 2024, 5:19 pm
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Send it by post would be my view, getting a free certificate of
posting as described.
It might not be a statement of truth, but this forum won't
advise choosing an option that may involve stating something
that isn't true.
#Post#: 42603--------------------------------------------------
Re: Used Millwall Dock for a photo shoot, Group Nexus, but was I
parked?
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 27, 2024, 7:26 am
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does the £50 charge stay for over 14 days if I lodge the appeal
within that time?
By virtue of their Code of Practice, in the event of an
unsuccessful appeal the creditor is obliged to offer a further
14 days to pay at the rate prevailing when the appeal was ???
The actual wording is:
..if the recipient appeals within 28 days of receiving the
parking charge...
The discount is available as follows:
'..payment of the charge is required within 28 days from the
date of this charge..we will accept the reduced sum if payment
is received within 14 days.'
14 days of when??
To maintain the discount in accordance with their written terms,
then IMO as the parking charge * is dated 14th then 28th,
tomorrow, would be the last day for them to receive any appeal.
This would seem to preclude sending by post.
*- they still don't get this! The 'parking charge' is payable by
the driver upon breach of the parking contract i.e. the date of
the breach. But operators continually refer to the 'parking
charge' as if it's the parking charge notice, which of course it
isn't.
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