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Ealing code 12r a minute after my PayByPhone parking permit
DIR By: mc542345
Date: August 9, 2023, 7:01 am
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I got a ticket for parking in a Permit spot. The ticket ( here
HTML https://photos.app.goo.gl/PQTgADeg4sn7DwYu6)
says:
Time:10:53
"the civil enforcement officer ... observed the vehicle
identified above from 10:50 to 10:53.
I have a PayByPhone app that I used to get a permit for this
license plate at 10:52:
HTML https://photos.app.goo.gl/ccdkpBnBj2qmbB1L6
HTML https://photos.app.goo.gl/ccdkpBnBj2qmbB1L6
The reason this happened someone was visiting, they came inside
my house and it took me a few minutes to get the ticket
prepared.
Do I have any grounds to not pay this £65 here, as when they
came back to the car, I had bought the ticket?
Back of ticket is here
HTML https://photos.app.goo.gl/r4eLArKXn4D9o1dM8
and here
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Re: Ealing code 12r a minute after my PayByPhone parking permit
DIR By: mc542345
Date: August 10, 2023, 10:14 am
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The details of the ticket I purchased are:
PayByPhone Parking Receipt
Transaction ID: 1157928532
Location: 37401
License: LR57VRZ
Description: ZONE A VISITOR PERMIT
Start Parking: 2023/08/09 10:52AM
Stop Parking: 2023/08/10 10:52AM
Cost: £4.95 including Service Charge (No VAT)
You can access a full list of all your parking transactions and
update your profile at www.paybyphone.co.uk.
Thank you for using the PayByPhone parking service.
So q remains, do I have grounds to not pay the PCN if the time
of the permit was during the observation time of the officer?
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Re: Ealing code 12r a minute after my PayByPhone parking permit
DIR By: guest179
Date: August 10, 2023, 10:48 am
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Can we be clear:
The reason this happened someone was visiting, they came inside
my house and it took me a few minutes to get the ticket
prepared.
So it wasn't your vehicle but your visitor's, therefore it's not
your penalty although you might feel a moral obligation to pay.
You could draft informal reps and even formal reps but the
liability remains their's, assuming the vehicle wasn't hired.
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Re: Ealing code 12r a minute after my PayByPhone parking permit
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 14, 2023, 3:27 am
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--- Quote from: mc542345 link ---
>
> So q remains, do I have grounds to not pay the PCN if the time
of the permit was during the observation time of the officer?
>
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Yes, the law allows you as long as is necessary to get a permit
(but not a second more). As the permit was obtained during the
observation period, by the end of the observation period the
vehicle was not in contravention anyway.
If you send an informal representation explaining what you've
explained to us, and providing proof of the pay by phone
transaction, I'd expect the council to cancel this with no fuss.
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