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       #Post#: 45299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: Neil B
       Date: November 12, 2024, 3:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: teatree04 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=teatree04 link=topic=3588.msg42291#msg42291
       date=1729858449]
       > [quote author=Incandescent link=topic=3588.msg42257#msg42257
       date=1729845225]
       > [quote author=John U.K. link=topic=3588.msg42254#msg42254
       date=1729844597]
       > [quote]It seems like an inefficient process where the fine has
       to be increased first before I can let them know I didn't
       receive the original PCN
       --- End Quote ---
       Cumbersome, but on the other hand the reset to the original PCN
       and penalty is automatic as long as the process is followed
       correctly and no deadlines missed. Miss a deadline now and it
       becomes very messy and expensive.
       [/quote]
       Indeed it does, and we've seen them on this forum and on the
       now-closed Pepipoo forum over the years !
       OP, you can only submit the SD once the debt is registered at
       TEC, not before.
       [/quote]
       Thanks for confirming, much obliged  :)
       [/quote]
       I've been chasing this with the TEC since last week and still
       nothing. I've completed my statutory declaration which I hope to
       get signed at the court this week. They keep telling me to
       contact the council when I eventually speak to the TEC but from
       what I see that's not the play at this stage
       [/quote]
       It's not unusual for councils to take time to register a debt,
       Havering included.
       #Post#: 55479--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: teatree04
       Date: January 28, 2025, 2:47 am
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       I've finally received the order for recovery (after I've been
       chasing since November). I have the signed statutory
       declaration, so I plan to send that off to the address stated
       today. I think that's the right steps in order but please shout
       if I've missed anything
       #Post#: 55771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: teatree04
       Date: January 29, 2025, 11:40 am
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       I've sent off the statutory declaration now and just waiting to
       hear back. Would it be worth appealing the decision or would you
       advise I just pay the lower amount?
       #Post#: 55778--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: January 29, 2025, 1:27 pm
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       A tad premature to suggest paying as you've not got a PCN
       (perhaps you've not completed the SD correctly- remember, the
       witness signatory doesn't check anything, only you signing!).
       Anyway, assuming a PCN arrives in time we need to check
       regulatory compliance and the quality of their evidence.
       #Post#: 55782--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: January 29, 2025, 2:23 pm
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       --- Quote from: teatree04 link ---
       >
       > I've sent off the statutory declaration now and just waiting
       to hear back. Would it be worth appealing the decision or would
       you advise I just pay the lower amount?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No you cannot. They will refer the matter to the Tribunal which
       is the stage I have offered to represent you.
       #Post#: 57577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: teatree04
       Date: February 11, 2025, 5:35 am
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       --- Quote from: teatree04 link ---
       >
       > I've sent off the statutory declaration now and just waiting
       to hear back. Would it be worth appealing the decision or would
       you advise I just pay the lower amount?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I got the attached and spoke to the court today. Apparently
       they've not received this from Havering despite Havering saying
       it's been lodged with the TEC. Has this happened before? Any
       advice on what to do? I'm concerned about the deadline ending
       and this being progressed
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 57580--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: February 11, 2025, 5:49 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > I've finally received the order for recovery (after I've been
       chasing since November).
       --- End Quote ---
       Can you post it here, please.
       Apparently Havering are in a state of complete and utter chaos.
       I suggest you contact them to ask them why, if they have sent
       you an OfR, they have not registered the debt at TEC. Show them
       a copy of the TEC letter.
       #Post#: 57599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: teatree04
       Date: February 11, 2025, 7:59 am
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       --- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
       >
       > [quote]I've finally received the order for recovery (after
       I've been chasing since November).
       --- End Quote ---
       Can you post it here, please.
       Apparently Havering are in a state of complete and utter chaos.
       I suggest you contact them to ask them why, if they have sent
       you an OfR, they have not registered the debt at TEC. Show them
       a copy of the TEC letter.
       [/quote]
       Sorry here is the order for recovery
       [attachment deleted by admin]
       #Post#: 57655--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: February 11, 2025, 10:34 am
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       Within 21 days of the date of the OFR you must choose the
       appropriate box, book an appointment asap with a court or
       solicitor and sign it only then in front of a witness. Then e
       mail it to TRC.
       #Post#: 57662--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Havering, code 52M (1st letter not received - presume drop
       off) South St RM1/Easern Rd RM1, Romford train Station
   DIR By: teatree04
       Date: February 11, 2025, 10:48 am
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       So I already got the PE3 signed and witnessed and sent to the
       TEC who then replied saying that the PCN wasn’t on their system
       as it’s not been registered on their system.
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