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#Post#: 42140--------------------------------------------------
PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid permit
DIR By: enajila29
Date: October 24, 2024, 6:09 am
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Newham Council
Alleged contravention: Parked in a residents’ or shared use
parking place or zone without a valid virtual permit or clearly
displaying a valid physical permit or voucher or pay and display
ticket issued for that place
Location: op1p18
I obtained a contractor’s parking permit and displayed it on my
dashboard (photo uploaded to Dropbox, please see link below).
However, I returned to my vehicle to find a PCN. This was a new
site to me and I thought I had parked in the correct place. I
was driving a transit size van and there was nowhere else to
park. The permit clearly states in capitals: “DO NOT TICKET THIS
VEHICLE”.
The photographic evidence shows my van clearly displaying the
permit so I can’t understand why I was issued with a ticket.
Please note that all the photos of my van were taken by the CEO.
The PCN and photographic evidence can be found here:
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/elblrr4ai8puh1ykozsci/AKB3UjqPgWuEordK51TYJpU?rlkey=ac174peh0jt1ve3eisjwa10mi&st=oc2jv3lp&dl=0
This is the Google Street View location:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/TYRZAD6EXz9PpYZA8
I've only just found your site so hope someone is available to
help me before 1.11.24, the last date I can appeal before the
fine increases.
Thanks in advance for your help. If you need further
information, please let me know.
#Post#: 42142--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 24, 2024, 6:22 am
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The permit you have is for a private parking company not Newham.
It seems you parked in a Newham on-street bay and not private
land?
#Post#: 42144--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: October 24, 2024, 6:36 am
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(Cross-posted with Stamfordman.)
Here?
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/sTC47pKbUGtLcCg3A
That appears to opposite lamp post 18.
Not sure why the CEO has goven a photo of the UKPC sign?
As Stamf says, the Permit is for the private areas of the
Galleons Point Estate - presumably Fishguard Way is public and
Council maintained. If the whole area is the Galleons Point
Estate I can understand why the 'Permit Holders Only' sign is
confusing.
Where is the UKPC sign located? Partly answeredby the plethora
of signs here:
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/RaU4VSV7YGT82Dgy6
At some point you must have passed an entering CPZ sign . . .
#Post#: 42149--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: October 24, 2024, 7:30 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> (Cross-posted with Stamfordman.)
>
> Here?
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/sTC47pKbUGtLcCg3A
> That appears to opposite lamp post 18.
>
> Not sure why the CEO has goven a photo of the UKPC sign?
>
> As Stamf says, the Permit is for the private areas of the
Galleons Point Estate - presumably Fishguard Way is public and
Council maintained. If the whole area is the Galleons Point
Estate I can understand why the 'Permit Holders Only' sign is
confusing.
>
> Where is the UKPC sign located? Partly answeredby the plethora
of signs here:
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/RaU4VSV7YGT82Dgy6
>
> At some point you must have passed an entering CPZ sign . . .
>
--- End Quote ---
The photo of the UKPC sign is not on the Council website so it
must be the OP's own photo.
One of the CEO's photos does show a Newham "Permit Holders Only"
repeater sign for Zone RDE(?) on the pavement just behind the
van. The resolution is not great so I can't be sure of the Zone.
So where is the UKPC sign?
#Post#: 42151--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 24, 2024, 7:41 am
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It's not a repeater sign it's a bay sign. This is a controlled
parking zone where all on-street kerbsides are yellow lines or
parking bays.
But the flats also have private car parks/parking areas, which
is where the OP should have been.
OP - who were you working for and for what?
HTML https://i.imgur.com/JQ9r6Zj.jpeg
#Post#: 42162--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: enajila29
Date: October 24, 2024, 8:49 am
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Thank you all for your speedy and helpful replies! I'm working
atm so will read through and reply this evening. Thanks again,
much appreciated!
#Post#: 42689--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: enajila29
Date: October 28, 2024, 8:57 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> The permit you have is for a private parking company not
Newham. It seems you parked in a Newham on-street bay and not
private land?
>
--- End Quote ---
It was my first time here and I wasn't aware there was a
difference, I thought it was all part of the Galleons Point
Estate. Galleons Point Management didn't mention it when I
collected the permit and I thought 'permit parking only' meant
the permit that I had.
Do you think I can appeal on the grounds of unclear signage?
#Post#: 42690--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: enajila29
Date: October 28, 2024, 9:06 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
>
> Not sure why the CEO has goven a photo of the UKPC sign?
> Where is the UKPC sign located? Partly answeredby the plethora
of signs here:
>
HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/RaU4VSV7YGT82Dgy6
>
> I took the photo of the UKPC sign. It was opposite the bay I
was parked in.
>
> As Stamf says, the Permit is for the private areas of the
Galleons Point Estate - presumably Fishguard Way is public and
Council maintained. If the whole area is the Galleons Point
Estate I can understand why the 'Permit Holders Only' sign is
confusing.
> I didn't see any signage to make me think part of the estate
is public and Council maintained. As I said in my answer to
stamfordman, I thought it was all part of the Galleons Point
Estate and yes, the 'permit holders only' sign is confusing.
>
> At some point you must have passed an entering CPZ sign . . .
> [color=blue]Unfortunately, I didn't see one. It was difficult
enough trying to find the estate management office. That said,
as UKPC maintain part of the area, if I had seen it, I would
have thought the CPZ was referring to that.
>
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#Post#: 42692--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: enajila29
Date: October 28, 2024, 9:09 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> But the flats also have private car parks/parking areas, which
is where the OP should have been.
> I understand that now but, unfortunately, it wasn't pointed
out to me by the estate office and there was no space for me to
park there anyway.
>
> OP - who were you working for and for what?
> I was working for a private resident.
>
>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/JQ9r6Zj.jpeg
>
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 43027--------------------------------------------------
Re: PCN - Newham - parked in residents' place without a valid
permit
DIR By: enajila29
Date: October 29, 2024, 5:35 pm
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[member=1]cp8759[/member] I'd appreciate your help on this
please as I need to appeal/pay by 1 November. Many thanks!
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