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#Post#: 41999--------------------------------------------------
TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: October 23, 2024, 7:19 am
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Hope everyone is well,
I have received this PCN while being parked on a single red line
at 23:54 which was enforceable at 7AM-7PM. From the pictures it
does look as if the rear end of my vehicle may have been over
where the single red line ends but my wheels was most definitely
on the single red line.
PCN :
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GSV :
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Draft :
I am writing to formally challenge the above-referenced Penalty
Charge Notice issued to my vehicle. The alleged contravention is
"Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)," but I
believe this charge has been issued incorrectly.
My vehicle was parked on a single red line on Edgeware Road
after the restricted hours of 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. As I understand,
parking is allowed outside of these hours, and my vehicle was
parked well after this time, making the penalty unwarranted.
I kindly request that you review this case in light of the
following points:
Time of Parking: My vehicle was parked after the restriction
period (7 a.m. - 7 p.m.) had ended, and therefore, no
contravention occurred.
Signage and Clear Indication: The signage at the location
clearly states that parking restrictions are only in place
between 7 a.m. and 7 p.m., which I adhered to.
I have attached evidence to support my appeal, including
photographs of the signage and my vehicle parked after the
restricted hours, along with any relevant documents.
I trust that this information is sufficient to have the PCN
canceled. Should you require further clarification, I would be
happy to provide additional details.
Thank you for taking the time to review my appeal, and I look
forward to your favorable response.
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I also remember on a previous thread being told that TFL have
numerous errors within there PCN at the moment, will this be the
case here?
Thank you.
#Post#: 42003--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 23, 2024, 7:35 am
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> but my wheels was most definitely on the single red line.
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Sorry, but it's where the whole car was than counts, so if part
of your car was intruding into the double-reds, you'll get a
PCN. So we really need to see the TfL photos or video. It should
be a video, and you can ask for a DVD to be sent to you, then
you can upload it here for us to look at.
#Post#: 46875--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: November 24, 2024, 3:52 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
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> [quote]but my wheels was most definitely on the single red
line.
--- End Quote ---
Sorry, but it's where the whole car was than counts, so if part
of your car was intruding into the double-reds, you'll get a
PCN. So we really need to see the TfL photos or video. It should
be a video, and you can ask for a DVD to be sent to you, then
you can upload it here for us to look at.
[/quote]
I had asked for the DVD footage of this PCN. It doesn't show on
the PCN key events and today I have received a PCN increase
letter instead.
I will call them tomorrow
#Post#: 46894--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: November 25, 2024, 2:47 am
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Please to post the letter here: only redact yr name & address.
#Post#: 48250--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: December 4, 2024, 6:35 am
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--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
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> Please to post the letter here: only redact yr name & address.
>
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Here is the charge certificate -
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Just got off the phone from TFL speaking to the most insane
representee 'Michelle' on the phone. Asking me why you appealing
it you can clearly see it parked on a double red and someone's
leaning on it. Raising her voice and very unprofessional.
She said the DVD has been requested but she can't tell me why it
hasn't been sent. She also claimed the charge certificate hasn't
even been sent yet.
The key events do not show any DVD requests either.
I need to put a representation ASAP, any recommendations on what
to do?
#Post#: 48258--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 4, 2024, 7:34 am
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Just submit a very short reps stating that you deny
responsibility for the PCN on the basis the alleged
contravention did not occur. Also state that you have requested
the TfL video of the allegation some time ago, but this has
still not arrived.
#Post#: 48262--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: December 4, 2024, 8:34 am
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[member=61]privates[/member] and the rest of the CC?
[member=12]Incandescent[/member] This appears to be a charge
certificate? Have they sent it prematurely?
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Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: privates
Date: December 4, 2024, 8:48 am
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> Just submit a very short reps stating that you deny
responsibility for the PCN on the basis the alleged
contravention did not occur. Also state that you have requested
the TfL video of the allegation some time ago, but this has
still not arrived.
>
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Can I also include a complaint about Michelle >:(
And that is all of the CC I can find for the time being
I will put through the appeal now
#Post#: 48284--------------------------------------------------
Re: TFL - Stopped where prohibited (on a red route or clearway)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 4, 2024, 9:37 am
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PCN issued 14 Oct. giving you until 12 Nov. to submit reps after
which date any reps could be disregarded by TfL. Even more so
now that a CC has been served.
But you can but try.

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