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       #Post#: 42830--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: b789
       Date: October 29, 2024, 6:20 am
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       So they only have evidence of the vehicle being stopped for 14
       seconds.
       #Post#: 42832--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: oshkosh
       Date: October 29, 2024, 6:25 am
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       It would seem.
       Is there a point in appealing at this stage or wait for next
       correspondence from them?
       #Post#: 42842--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: b789
       Date: October 29, 2024, 6:42 am
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       They have until 18th November to appeal. What was the reason the
       driver decided to park at that spot?
       Any appeal for this PCN is going to be rejected by both UKPC and
       POPLA. No one pays these though.
       After a flurry of debt collector letters which we don't need to
       know about and can be safely ignored, a Letter of Claim (LoC)
       will be sent. Come back when that happens and we will provide
       the necessary response. Eventually a claim will be issued and we
       will provide the defence.
       It is with over 99% certainty that this would eventually be
       discontinued early next year.
       #Post#: 42843--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: oshkosh
       Date: October 29, 2024, 6:45 am
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       Thanks.
       Driver parked there due to a large part of the car park coned
       off and very limited parking available at the time.
       #Post#: 42845--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: b789
       Date: October 29, 2024, 6:48 am
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       It really doesn't matter. No appeal will be accepted. Only a
       county court claim that is defended will result in this
       eventually being discontinued. Their modus operandi is to
       escalate with threats of litigation in the hope that the
       defendant is low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree and will
       cave in once the (imagined) pressure increases.
       By the time it comes to them having to pay the trial fee, if the
       defendant hasn't caved, they will discontinue and move on in
       search of even lower hanging fruit.
       #Post#: 60326--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: oshkosh
       Date: March 3, 2025, 5:07 am
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       UPDATE: Letter of Claim received from DCB Legal. Do you need me
       to post it here? If not, please advise what my next action
       should be?
       Thank you
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       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: March 4, 2025, 5:50 am
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       It would be useful to see it.
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       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: oshkosh
       Date: March 4, 2025, 5:59 am
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       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: March 4, 2025, 6:43 am
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       You are waiting for this to eventually turn into a claim - when
       it does, you will receive a Claim Form from the Civil National
       Business Centre, which you should share here.
       In the meantime, here's an example of how you can respond to the
       Letter of Claim, courtesy of b789. Amend any case specific
       details such as dates as necessary.
       --- Quote from: b789 link ---
       >
       > Respond as follows:
       >
       > [quote]DCB Legal
       > Direct House
       > Greenwood Drive
       > Manor Park
       > Runcorn
       > Cheshire
       > WA7 1UG
       >
       > By email to: info@dcblegal.co.uk
       >
       > [Date]
       >
       > Dear Sirs,
       >
       > Re: Letter of Claim dated 20th February 2025
       >
       > I refer to your Letter of Claim.
       >
       > I confirm that my address for service at this time is as
       follows, and I request that any outdated address be erased from
       your records to ensure compliance with data protection
       obligations:
       >
       > [YOUR ADDRESS]
       >
       > Please note that the alleged debt is disputed, and any court
       proceedings will be robustly defended.
       >
       > I note that the sum claimed has been increased by an excessive
       and unjustifiable amount, which appears contrary to the
       principles established by the Government, who described such
       practices as “extorting money from motorists.” Please refrain
       from sending boilerplate responses or justifications regarding
       this issue.
       >
       > Under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, I require
       specific answers to the following questions:
       >
       > [indent]1. Does the additional £70 represent what you describe
       as a “Debt Recovery” fee? If so, is this figure net of or
       inclusive of VAT? If inclusive, I trust you will explain why I,
       as the alleged debtor, am being asked to cover your client’s VAT
       liability.
       >
       > 2. Regarding the principal sum of the alleged Parking Charge
       Notice (PCN): Is this being claimed as damages for breach of
       contract, or will it be pleaded as consideration for a purported
       parking contract?[/indent]
       >
       > I would caution you against simply dismissing these questions
       with vague or boilerplate responses, as I am fully aware of the
       implications. By claiming that PCNs are exempt from VAT while
       simultaneously inflating the debt recovery element, your client
       – with your assistance – appears to be evading VAT obligations
       due to HMRC. Such mendacious conduct raises serious questions
       about the legality and ethics of your practices.
       >
       > I strongly advise your client to cease and desist. Should this
       matter proceed to court, you can be assured that these issues
       will be brought to the court’s attention, alongside a robust
       defence and potentially a counterclaim for unreasonable conduct.
       >
       > Yours faithfully,
       >
       > 
[YOUR NAME]
       --- End Quote ---
       Save as a PDF file and attach to an email addressed to
       info@dcblegal.co.uk and also CC in yourself.
       [/quote]
       #Post#: 60523--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Brent Cross Shopping Centre DYL - UKPC
   DIR By: oshkosh
       Date: March 4, 2025, 6:48 am
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       Thank you - will keep you posted.
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