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       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: Speedygonzales
       Date: November 21, 2024, 10:26 am
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       I can play the politeness game so that shouldn’t be a problem.
       Currently six points on license so yes, another six is really
       what I’m trying to avoid. Sounds like a worst-case scenario now
       though.
       #Post#: 46534--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: November 21, 2024, 11:53 am
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       Yes, it is the worst case scenario and the outcome should not
       see you on twelve points.
       If it does, you are able to avoid a ban if you can convince the
       court that you or others will suffer "exceptional hardship" if
       banned. The hardship must be over and above that which is likely
       to be suffered by any other driver subject to a ban.
       #Post#: 46537--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: Speedygonzales
       Date: November 21, 2024, 12:46 pm
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       I'll update in 2/3 weeks time and hopefully won't need to ask
       about defending the "Fail to Provide details" charge.
       Thanks again.
       #Post#: 49673--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: Speedygonzales
       Date: December 13, 2024, 10:49 am
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       Caught appearance happened to last week, stuck to the plan and
       all went as well as could be expected. Although they did put my
       speeding offence on a sliding scale and hence, I received 4
       points instead of 3. As described above the court’s do not want
       to convict you of both. Still don’t fully understand why.
       The overall financial penalty was several times more than the
       normal speeding ticket, so I have to thank the Royal Mail for
       that. My old dad says if it feels like you’ve been robbed, you
       probably have.
       Thanks again for the advice it was very useful.
       A donation has been made to a local homeless charity on behalf
       of FTLA.
       #Post#: 49993--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: December 15, 2024, 2:27 pm
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       --- Quote from: Speedygonzales link ---
       >
       > Below is a response to a DM I received and thought it would
       benefit all who have ended up in this situation.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       And which bright spark sent you that?
       #Post#: 50002--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: ManxTom
       Date: December 15, 2024, 3:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=Speedygonzales link=topic=3533.msg49985#msg49985
       date=1734292760]
       > Below is a response to a DM I received and thought it would
       benefit all who have ended up in this situation.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       And which bright spark sent you that?
       [/quote]
       I don't think anyobody sent him that, did they?
       Isn't that his response to whatever he was sent?  Which could
       have been a simple "How did your court appearance go?"
       OP's views sound a bit freemanesque to me...
       #Post#: 50005--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: December 15, 2024, 4:12 pm
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       --- Quote from: ManxTom link ---
       >
       > Isn't that his response to whatever he was sent?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah, maybe. It’s of no use to man nor beast though.
       #Post#: 50026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: sparx
       Date: December 15, 2024, 6:32 pm
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       --- Quote from: Speedygonzales link ---
       > She told me I needed to inform my insurance company of the
       outcome immediately as it may invalidate my insurance if I
       didn’t. (collusion between the corporate banks and the state?)
       She ended by reminding me that another 2 points and I would lose
       my license.
       >
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       Since it's purely a commercial contractual term (bearing in mind
       some insurers don't even care for mid-policy points), what sort
       of state collusion are you thinking is involved?
       #Post#: 50046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Received a SJP notice but no NIP 
   DIR By: Lodesman
       Date: December 16, 2024, 4:46 am
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       Sounds like the OP experienced a very normal appearance in
       court.
       Delays in timings for defendants appearances are regrettable
       but, at the start of the day, no-one has any idea how long each
       case will take.
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