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#Post#: 49197--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 10, 2024, 9:03 am
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Register the appeal, this does not require a full argument. Pl
ensure it is registered. Grounds PI and whatever else is
suggested.
The keeper will be given a Case No. and can view the authority's
case and submit 'further representations' at any time up to
their hearing.
Get the appeal registered pl.
NB. * I've couched the above in these terms because earlier you
posted that you were not the keeper. If this is correct then
make sure the keeper registers the appeal. You may act on their
behalf if you have written permission which you'd need to
present to the tribunal.
#Post#: 49201--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: dave-o
Date: December 10, 2024, 9:24 am
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Yes I'm not the keeper, I am helping him. I have written
permission.
The website doesn't allow an appeal to be registered without the
appeal code:
HTML https://i.ibb.co/3fB7HyD/tribunal.jpg
And there was no tribunal document attached with the NOR, so I
can't see how this can be done by post. Am I missing something?
#Post#: 49205--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 10, 2024, 9:50 am
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Call the tribunal and ask them what you are supposed to do.
020 7520 7200 - open til 5pm.
Have you posted the full rejection letter from Harrow.
I expect they'll say sort it out with Harrow.
#Post#: 49207--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: dave-o
Date: December 10, 2024, 9:52 am
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The full NOR is in reply #10
#Post#: 49212--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 10, 2024, 10:15 am
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Am I missing something?
Yes, the accompanying form.
Speak to the tribunal tomorrow (I see stamfordman has already
advised this). They have a direct line to authorities.
The 28-day period ends on 12th, but once you've made contact
they'll extend.
Have you read the NOR and compared with the regs? The NOR itself
is a guaranteed win IMO under PI because it omits mandatory
reference to the issue of costs and, ironically the
adjudicator's power to register an appeal late!
So:
Failure to comply with their public law duty to act fairly;
Failure to comply with Secretary of State's Statutory Guidance;
Failure to comply with the 'Appeals' regulations.
#Post#: 49215--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: dave-o
Date: December 10, 2024, 10:21 am
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Thank you, they have suggested I submit to their email address
(London Tribunals, that is). Is that what you meant by
"register the appeal"?
#Post#: 49222--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 10, 2024, 10:45 am
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Submit what?
You need a form, whether theirs online or the one missing from
the NOR. There are some specific fields which have to be
completed.
#Post#: 49294--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: dave-o
Date: December 11, 2024, 4:23 am
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I am well aware of what we need to do, however none of this is
actually possible in the situation.
As stated, no form was received. It is not possible to continue
the online form without an "appeal verification code". There is
no (as far as I can find) copy of the postal form that can be
downloaded anywhere. You seem to be implying there is some way
other than the above dead ends in which to register an appeal?
What would that be?
On the phone, the tribunal has suggested sending an email marked
"urgent" to them, with an outline of the appeal. This has been
done but no response received other than a confirmation of
receipt.
The council is a dead end as the PCN line states "Email us, and
don't bother trying any other of the phone lines as we won't
talk to you"
#Post#: 49310--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: December 11, 2024, 5:35 am
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You should also email the council and say they didn't send the
appeal details.
#Post#: 49312--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow - Outside Markings
DIR By: dave-o
Date: December 11, 2024, 5:41 am
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> You should also email the council and say they didn't send the
appeal details.
>
--- End Quote ---
I did so yesterday. Harrow are absolute disorganised gits
though, and it's in their interest to delay until Friday, so I'm
not holding out much hope.
I'm wondering if we can go through the whole stat dec procedure
again, claiming no NOR was received (actually, not a complete
NOR in this case). This seems pretty sketchy though.
As it is he will probably just have to pay tomorrow if neither
organisation gets back to us. This really sticks in the craw
after all they've put him through ad that it was the council's
mistake.
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