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#Post#: 41576--------------------------------------------------
Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: maripop00
Date: October 20, 2024, 1:21 pm
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Hi everyone
After some advice.
I drove to London back in April 2024, and was extremely careful
not going into the Congestion Charge Zone, which I believed was
the only thing you had to pay for.
I live in Cheshire, and this was my first time going into London
in like 12 years so had no idea about the Ulez. Maybe ignorance,
I know, but I am not local from London, and do not keep up with
the news regarding these charges.
Cutting long story short, I received a letter from CDER Group ,
however I didn't receive any letter from TfL at all (we did have
troubles with Royal Mail, maybe letters getting lost) but point
is the first time I heard about this fine was from CDER with
obviously a very high amount now.
I emailed CDER to say that I will be contacting TfL, as if I had
received any letters previously, I would of paid straight away
and not letting this amount to a high now.
CDER replied that they cannot stop any enforcement unless their
client (TfL) tells them and proceeded to visit my address the
next day after their response. Obviously no one answered the
door.
I am currently abroad and will be for the next 9-12 months (and
even the car I drove is currently as : exported' due to being
more than 1 year I will be abroad - still same car and reg as
the fine) but my mother is at the address (who is vulnerable and
disabled lives alone) and I obviously want to avoid CDER
bothering her!
What would you advise is the best course of action for me ? Can
I get in touch with TfL , is there a way to reinstate the
original fine amount on the basis that I didn't receive any
letter previously and stupidly wasn't even aware of Ulez as not
local - I am now and clearly will not be repeating the same
mistake in the future :(
Also, how do I stop CDER from visiting again or can they put the
case on hold while I sort with TfL ?
Are CDER actually Bailiffs? What would happen should they decide
to visit again ?
I just want to get this sorted asap, I would rather pay the
original fine - but completely unsure on how to word it
All advice apps
#Post#: 41579--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 20, 2024, 2:05 pm
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What address is on the V5C logbook. That's where at least three
letters will have been sent to.
#Post#: 41594--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: maripop00
Date: October 20, 2024, 4:02 pm
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--- Quote from: stamfordman link ---
>
> What address is on the V5C logbook. That's where at least
three letters will have been sent to.
>
--- End Quote ---
I haven't changed address, it's the same as the first CDER
letter
#Post#: 41598--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 20, 2024, 4:36 pm
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--- Quote from: maripop00 link ---
>
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=3529.msg41579#msg41579
date=1729451112]
> What address is on the V5C logbook. That's where at least
three letters will have been sent to.
>
--- End Quote ---
I haven't changed address, it's the same as the first CDER
letter
[/quote]
So, to confirm....
The address on your V5C is the same as the address on the CDER
letter, and that V5C address has been the same as before the
date of the ULEZ PCN ?
You have not received THREE statutory documents, all sent to the
address on the V5C shortly after the alleged contravention was
detected by TfL cameras
- Original PCN
- Charge Certificate
- Order for Recovery
#Post#: 41600--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: maripop00
Date: October 20, 2024, 4:51 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> [quote author=maripop00 link=topic=3529.msg41594#msg41594
date=1729458175]
> [quote author=stamfordman link=topic=3529.msg41579#msg41579
date=1729451112]
> What address is on the V5C logbook. That's where at least
three letters will have been sent to.
>
--- End Quote ---
I haven't changed address, it's the same as the first CDER
letter
[/quote]
So, to confirm....
The address on your V5C is the same as the address on the CDER
letter, and that V5C address has been the same as before the
date of the ULEZ PCN ?
You have not received THREE statutory documents, all sent to the
address on the V5C shortly after the alleged contravention was
detected by TfL cameras
- Original PCN
- Charge Certificate
- Order for Recovery
[/quote]
No letters have been received :-[ The first was the CDER
letter
#Post#: 41602--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 20, 2024, 5:08 pm
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Post the bailiff letter obscuring only name and address.
#Post#: 41604--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 20, 2024, 5:13 pm
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And this statement is true: -
--- Quote ---
> The address on your V5C is the same as the address on the CDER
letter, and that V5C address has been the same as before the
date of the ULEZ PCN ?
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 41610--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: maripop00
Date: October 20, 2024, 6:10 pm
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This is the letter
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HTML https://ibb.co/tMzm4c3[/img]
HTML https://ibb.co/tMzm4c3
For some reason it's not letting me attach although it's a very
small size file, says the upload folder full
#Post#: 41611--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 20, 2024, 6:26 pm
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You still haven't answered the question - is the address on the
CDER letter identical to the address on the V5C for the car, and
is the V5C address the same now as it was when the PCN was
issued by TfL ?
The most common reason we see on here when bailiffs are at the
OPs door is failure to keep the V5C for the car up-to-date. All
the statutory enforcement documents served by TfL use the
address on the V5C at the time the PCN was printed and mailed.
You have not received all three of them. The bailiffs are very
proactive in seeking out debtors, because their livelihood
depends on it. At the moment, the amount you own them is the
minimum. If they visit you then another £235 visit fee will be
added on to the debt.
#Post#: 41616--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ulez Fine now CDER Bailiff
DIR By: maripop00
Date: October 20, 2024, 6:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Incandescent link ---
>
> You still haven't answered the question - is the address on
the CDER letter identical to the address on the V5C for the car,
and is the V5C address the same now as it was when the PCN was
issued by TfL ?
>
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes, sorry thought I answered it above. The address is the same.
It hasn't changed since getting the car to this day
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