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Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: iffy_jiffy
Date: December 17, 2024, 5:09 am
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Hi "@h c anderson",
That sounds correct yes.
The email to myself was not uploaded on the forum - apologies.
Now uploaded--
HTML https://imgur.com/a/inryq1x
Regards,
Irfan.
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Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: December 17, 2024, 5:17 pm
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[member=3087]iffy_jiffy[/member] you need to understand that
this is not your case and therefore not your appeal, at most you
are a witness. Any appeal is between the registered keeper and
the authority.
However as the discount is not on offer there's no point in
paying now, as the registered keeper can't end up any worse of
by appealing. I'll drop you a PM in case the registered keeper
would like me to represent them.
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Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: February 12, 2025, 11:18 am
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Outcome:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/TmlePSu.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/OWfe6E9.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/f0M5IG7.png
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Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: iffy_jiffy
Date: February 12, 2025, 11:47 am
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[member=1]cp8759[/member] thanks for your help with this.
Brilliant statement, arguments and case made for the appeal.
#Post#: 57859--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: February 12, 2025, 1:29 pm
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As per my posts many months ago, and the right outcome was
obtained.
But how the hell the adjudicator even registered the appeal in
the first place beggars belief!
Appeal to an adjudicator against a decision to reject a
recipient’s representations
7.—(1) A recipient may appeal to an adjudicator against an
enforcement authority’s decision not to accept their
representations.
But the 'recipient' (of the NTO) didn't make reps. Being able to
make an appeal is a two-part test. It's not just that a NOR has
been received by the recipient of the NTO, it's that reps were
made as required and a NOR received.
What is going on with the tribunals nowadays? (Rhetorical, pl
don't PM me!!)
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Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: February 12, 2025, 4:30 pm
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And so it came to pass that Manchester's permit parking sign of
destiny met the loading lorry of doom.
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Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: February 12, 2025, 4:50 pm
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--- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
>
> But the 'recipient' (of the NTO) didn't make reps.
>
--- End Quote ---
While the authority is entitled to demand proof of authority in
the form of an LoA from the person named on the NTO, there is no
law that says they must. If you got an NTO and I sent in a
representation saying you've authorised me to write in on your
behalf, there is nothing to stop an authority saying "OK Mr
cp8759, we accept at face value that you are authorised", it
might seem odd but I can't see that the council are breaking any
law by doing that.
And if you look at the statute the legal test is not a two-part
test, it's simply that the appeal has to be brought by the
recipient of the NoR, whoever that may be. Otherwise if you get
an NTO and you make representations against it but due to some
council mix-up I get the notice of rejection which names me as
the liable party and demanding that I pay within 28 days, I'd
have no right of appeal.
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