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#Post#: 47613--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: iffy_jiffy
Date: November 30, 2024, 5:11 am
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member], Apologies the last pic hasnt come
out correctly so won't load. Could you resend this please?
Appreciated. Thank you.
Regards,
Irfan.
#Post#: 47614--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 30, 2024, 5:16 am
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--- Quote from: iffy_jiffy link ---
>
> Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member], Apologies the last pic hasnt
come out correctly so won't load. Could you resend this please?
>
--- End Quote ---
[member=3087]iffy_jiffy[/member] it loads perfectly fine for me,
and in any case you don't need it at the representations stage.
I just put it on here so that we have that evidence to hand in
case the council fixes the website between now at the date of
any hearing at the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.
#Post#: 47615--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: iffy_jiffy
Date: November 30, 2024, 5:20 am
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member], cool thanks. I'm filling the
online form in now - what is "General Representation" - i myself
representing the appeal i'm guessing?
Regards,
Irfan.
#Post#: 47616--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 30, 2024, 5:22 am
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--- Quote from: iffy_jiffy link ---
>
> Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member], cool thanks. I'm filling the
online form in now - what is "General Representation" - i myself
representing the appeal i'm guessing?
>
> Regards,
> Irfan.
>
--- End Quote ---
It's the only ground of appeal they put on the website, because
the website is wrong.
#Post#: 47619--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: iffy_jiffy
Date: November 30, 2024, 5:31 am
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member], this has now been done and i have
got a screenshot of the submissions/confirmation. The
"confirmation" has been received via email too.
Much appreciated.
Thanks,
Irfan.
#Post#: 50150--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: iffy_jiffy
Date: December 16, 2024, 6:02 pm
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Hi [member=1]cp8759[/member], just an update on this. I appealed
as advised and i received a letter back from the council stating
the representation has been rejected as i am not the registered
owner (i appealed as a driver who was driving the vehicle and
not the registered keeper - this is my bad the pic shown by
yourself on your previous post did state to appeal as the
registered owner :( ). I have a letter printed and signed from
the registered keeper and this will be sent off tomorrow
morning.
Please see attached letter from the council.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/bjAytoG
- Page 1
HTML https://imgur.com/a/61C82NU
- Page 2
Does this mean i can't now appeal through the council and i have
to go to via the independent adjudicator?
Kind Regards,
Irfan.
#Post#: 50152--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: December 16, 2024, 6:28 pm
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> Does this mean i can't now appeal through the council and i
have to go to via the independent adjudicator?
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It means the registered keeper must either pay the £70, or take
the matter to the adjudicators. As the penalty will not increase
at the adjudicators, and there are no additional costs, it is a
total no-brainer to take the matter to adjudication. You can
only act on behalf of the keeper if they supply written
authority for you to act on their behalf.
#Post#: 50161--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 17, 2024, 3:20 am
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OP, to whom is the Notice of Rejection addressed, you or the
registered keeper.
I won't presume or deduce from its or your post's contents, one
step at a time: to whom is the NoR addressed?
#Post#: 50169--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: iffy_jiffy
Date: December 17, 2024, 3:54 am
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Hi @h c anderson,
I was the driver who appealed. Once i appealed, I received an
email to state i couldn't appeal as i wasn't the registered
keeper of the car - this they was confirmed by the council via
details from DVLA. And i didn't have permission from the
registered owner to appeal on their behalf or discuss the case.
The registered keeper received a letter advising "Notice of
Rejection of Representations" - this is the letter i posted last
night with the letter.
Summary -
30/11 - i appealed (im not the registered keeper)
6/12 - i email received from the council advising im not the
registered keeper as i have no permission on their behalf the
case could not be discussed with me
16/12 - letter received by the registered keeper (dated 12/12).
Pictures posted on the last post.
Kind Regards,
Irfan.
#Post#: 50172--------------------------------------------------
Re: Manchester City Council - Code 12 - Parked in a "Permit
Parking Zone" but sign blocked and not clear
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: December 17, 2024, 4:24 am
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Then IMO it's not a NoR because no formal representations were
made.
In short:
You wrongly submitted what you described as formal
representations;
Council advised you that what you submitted would not be
considered as formal reps(have we seen this email?);
Keeper did not submit formal reps in their own name and yet
despite not submitting formal reps they've been served with a
Notice of Rejection of (non-existent) Reps despite the 28-day
period for making those reps not having expired!!
Is the above correct?
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