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       #Post#: 41311--------------------------------------------------
       Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: dave-o
       Date: October 18, 2024, 4:19 am
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       As this hasn't resulted in a ticket yet, it seemed wrong to put
       it in the PCN discussion topic, so here's a quick question:
       Could someone successfully claim boarding/alighting when stopped
       on a bus stop for less than 2 minutes?  The boarder was not
       assisted.
       Thanks
       #Post#: 41331--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: Lodesman
       Date: October 18, 2024, 5:39 am
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       I'm sure you have looked at the Highway Code 243 where it says
       that you must not stop at a bus stop.
       Others will have chapter and verse regarding signage.
       Why not stop on double yellows to drop-off or pick-up
       passengers, AFAIK that is permitted.
       I'm afraid that there are numerous instances online of penalties
       being issued for stopping at a bus stop to drop off or pick up
       passengers.
       Whether you have actually been caught or not is another matter.
       #Post#: 41333--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: October 18, 2024, 5:47 am
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       What bus stop?
       If it's marked and signed as a no stopping clearway that's what
       it says on the tin - no stopping. There are exemptions but
       certainly not boarding/alighting.
       Some bus stops have no restrictions.
       #Post#: 41409--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: mickR
       Date: October 18, 2024, 2:19 pm
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       it's OK as long as you're driving a bus
       #Post#: 41426--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: October 19, 2024, 2:47 am
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       --- Quote from: mickR link ---
       >
       > it's OK as long as you're driving a bus
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Even that's dodgy these days, as most 'bus stops now seem to
       have a 'Local 'Buses Only' plate.
       Tho' some here in Great Yarmouth have time plates: 6am-7pm IIRC,
       a practice TfL might consider for some of their less used stops
       (and 'bus lanes!).
       #Post#: 41428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: October 19, 2024, 3:19 am
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       I do it all the time, but then I drive buses. In London, you
       never know which stops have cameras and which don't, so don't
       risk it.  lot of drivers seem to be dyslexic, mistaking the big
       words in the road BUS STOP to mean car park. They've even put
       big yellow lines at the edge of the road for those who have
       difficulty knowing what the white words mean.
       But if you're caught, have a look for the yellow plate at the
       bus stop that says something like no stopping except buses, that
       means any bus can stop there. No stopping except local buses
       means a bus on a regular services, not buses on private hire.
       Outside London the counties have their own local definitions. I
       know in Surrey all bus stops used to be classed as bus stands
       which means buses can stop there for any length of time. A lot
       of county bus stops are just a sign by the road with no other
       stopping restrictions. But it's the writing on the road, the
       yellow line and the yellow sign that make the difference. In
       London don't even think about stopping on a bus stop unless
       you're driving. bus or traffic dictates otherwise.
       #Post#: 41577--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: October 20, 2024, 1:51 pm
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       [member=22]roythebus[/member], as I understand it this whole
       process is an example of non-verbal communication: everything
       relies upon the markings and signs. WYSIWYG.
       So, IMO it's impossible to answer a question unless the markings
       and signs are known.
       #Post#: 41608--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: Phantomcrusader
       Date: October 20, 2024, 5:34 pm
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       Part 6 paragraph 4
  HTML https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/7/madelists<br
       />the exceptions
       #Post#: 41621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: roythebus
       Date: October 21, 2024, 2:05 am
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       Yep, it all depends on the sign. Even if it's a road no longer
       served by buses, if it's signed as a bus stop you still can't
       stop there unless the upright sign has mysteriously vanished.
       #Post#: 42530--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boarding / Alighting on a Bus Stop
   DIR By: Coachdriver
       Date: October 26, 2024, 12:47 pm
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       Just as an amusing diversion.
       I used to regularly use a bus stop near Birmingham Airport. It
       was frequently blocked by parked cars unloading airport
       passengers.
       One day I just had enough of it, pulled the coach up close and
       held the loud air horn on continuously.
       Out stepped two fully armed Airport Police Officers, was I
       embarrassed!
       They had a look around stepped back in and drove off, what a
       relief.
       I suppose if this had happened in a more authoritarian country I
       might have had a spell in hospital.
       Coachdriver.
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