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Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: crxvtec
Date: August 7, 2023, 5:10 pm
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Got this PCN for apparently not parking correctly within a bay
or space. On arrival, there was a car parked directly in front
so we parked directly behind. There were no markings visible
anywhere so we paid and left, only to return to a PCN. The "bay"
in front of our car isn't marked out as seen in the photos,
ditto the "bay" behind our car. The markings in the photos were
obscured by the car so it wasn't apparent that we were between
two bays.
Your advice is appreciated. It's a company leased vehicle.
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: August 8, 2023, 6:00 am
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Please post a google street view link to the exact spot, i would
venture either wrong location or vague location could be in play
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 8, 2023, 6:08 am
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> It's a company leased vehicle.
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You need to discovere what your company's policy is re PCNs.
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: August 8, 2023, 9:37 am
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> Please post a google street view link to the exact spot, i
would venture either wrong location or vague location could be
in play
>
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Looks like here?
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6075811,-0.3743394,3a,75y,140.5h,83.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR8g-ob8Rg-0X-nuwZDsZoQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
And that Op parked across two marked bays.
Though markings are not exactly jumping out at you.
Sign just up the road doesn't specify marked bays.
Once again I have to wonder what the traffic order says?
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: crxvtec
Date: August 8, 2023, 6:11 pm
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--- Quote from: DancingDad link ---
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> [quote author=Pastmybest link=topic=350.msg2898#msg2898
date=1691492429]
> Please post a google street view link to the exact spot, i
would venture either wrong location or vague location could be
in play
>
--- End Quote ---
Looks like here?
HTML https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6075811,-0.3743394,3a,75y,140.5h,83.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sR8g-ob8Rg-0X-nuwZDsZoQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
And that Op parked across two marked bays.
Though markings are not exactly jumping out at you.
Sign just up the road doesn't specify marked bays.
Once again I have to wonder what the traffic order says?
[/quote]
Exactly right on the GSV location. The markings are vague and
badly formed.
I don't know what the traffic order says but I did find this:
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 9, 2023, 6:03 pm
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I've requested the traffic management order, looks like various
avenues are worth exploring with this one.
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: crxvtec
Date: August 11, 2023, 1:28 pm
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I got some photos of the signage on the street:
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: Pastmybest
Date: August 12, 2023, 2:25 am
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Yep wrong location, not a sure fired winner with all
adjudicators as location is not a statutory requirement but most
adjudicators agree that as the PCN states the CEO has reason to
believe you commit a contravention at a location you must at
least be at that place
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: crxvtec
Date: August 12, 2023, 3:59 pm
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--- Quote from: Pastmybest link ---
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> Yep wrong location, not a sure fired winner with all
adjudicators as location is not a statutory requirement but most
adjudicators agree that as the PCN states the CEO has reason to
believe you commit a contravention at a location you must at
least be at that place
>
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Hi PMB, I don't follow your comment. Perhaps I've had a wine too
many this evening! The signs are from the parade where the car
was parked.
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Re: Harrow Council code 24 poor markings
DIR By: crxvtec
Date: August 15, 2023, 1:22 am
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CP, did you receive the TRO? 14 day discount period lapsing soon
so want to get something in ASAP ideally.
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