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       #Post#: 41187--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single Justice Procedure Notice & fine refund
   DIR By: LunaPiena
       Date: October 17, 2024, 7:37 am
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       --- Quote from: RichardW link ---
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       > [quote author=LunaPiena link=topic=3489.msg41159#msg41159
       date=1729162627]
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       > In regards to point, I meant I had 3 point taken last year so
       now I have 9 points left on my licence.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Oh dear... that means that the third offence here is going to
       result in a 6 month 'totting up' ban for reaching 12 points.
       [/quote]
       I had to go back and check..so I had an endorsment course in
       2022 for speed, a speed fine on  November 2023 which I got 3
       points for and this year I had this speed fine in question in
       april 2024 and a yellow box fine with tfl in August, so speed
       fine this year only 1..somhow I felt like I had more  ;D
       so Hopefully this one is the only SJPN I get
       #Post#: 41201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single Justice Procedure Notice & fine refund
   DIR By: 666
       Date: October 17, 2024, 8:23 am
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       --- Quote from: LunaPiena link ---
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       > [quote author=RichardW link=topic=3489.msg41173#msg41173
       date=1729164829]
       > [quote author=LunaPiena link=topic=3489.msg41159#msg41159
       date=1729162627]
       >
       > In regards to point, I meant I had 3 point taken last year so
       now I have 9 points left on my licence.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Oh dear... that means that the third offence here is going to
       result in a 6 month 'totting up' ban for reaching 12 points.
       [/quote]
       I had to go back and check..so I had an endorsment course in
       2022 for speed, a speed fine on  November 2023 which I got 3
       points for and this year I had this speed fine in question in
       april 2024 and a yellow box fine with tfl in August, so speed
       fine this year only 1..somhow I felt like I had more  ;D
       so Hopefully this one is the only SJPN I get
       [/quote]
       As already explained, points are not "taken", they are added.
       There is no such thing as an "endorsment course". If there was a
       course, there would be no endorsement, and vice-versa. Which was
       it?
       The yellow box "fine" from TfL was a civil penalty, which is
       irrelevant.
       Can you please clarify EXACTLY what is currently on your licence
       record?
       #Post#: 41203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single Justice Procedure Notice & fine refund
   DIR By: LunaPiena
       Date: October 17, 2024, 8:33 am
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       so Hopefully this one is the only SJPN I get
       [/quote]
       As already explained, points are not "taken", they are added.
       You probably didn't see it but I had already clarified on
       previous posts that I only have 3 points from December 2023.
       Apologies for wrong terms used, I meant o say that I did the
       speed awareness course in November 2022.
       That's it, I've had no other point.
       #Post#: 41232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single Justice Procedure Notice & fine refund
   DIR By: LunaPiena
       Date: October 17, 2024, 9:44 am
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       Just one last question..
       when pleading guilty, is if better if I chose to attend court of
       it won't make much difference in term of getting away with a
       cheaper fine?
       #Post#: 41238--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single Justice Procedure Notice & fine refund
   DIR By: 666
       Date: October 17, 2024, 10:04 am
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       --- Quote from: LunaPiena link ---
       >
       > Just one last question..
       >
       > when pleading guilty, is if better if I chose to attend court
       of it won't make much difference in term of getting away with a
       cheaper fine?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's very unlikely to make any difference. Sentencing usually
       simply follows the guidelines.
       Even if it were to reduce the fine, you'd have to offset that
       against a day of your time plus travel costs.
       #Post#: 41240--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single Justice Procedure Notice & fine refund
   DIR By: LunaPiena
       Date: October 17, 2024, 10:05 am
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       --- Quote from: 666 link ---
       >
       > [quote author=LunaPiena link=topic=3489.msg41232#msg41232
       date=1729176281]
       > Just one last question..
       >
       > when pleading guilty, is if better if I chose to attend court
       of it won't make much difference in term of getting away with a
       cheaper fine?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's very unlikely to make any difference. Sentencing usually
       simply follows the guidelines.
       Even if it were to reduce the fine, you'd have to offset that
       against a day of your time plus travel costs.
       [/quote] Makes sense. Thank you
       #Post#: 41276--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single Justice Procedure Notice & fine refund
   DIR By: RichardW
       Date: October 17, 2024, 2:33 pm
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       Have you had your driving licence more than 2 years?
       #Post#: 41277--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Single Justice Procedure Notice & fine refund
   DIR By: LunaPiena
       Date: October 17, 2024, 2:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: RichardW link ---
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       > Have you had your driving licence more than 2 years?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       yes 20 years
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