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       #Post#: 41948--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: b789
       Date: October 23, 2024, 1:02 am
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       There is nothing to “acknowledge” service of. When you receive
       an N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC, you will acknowledge service
       of that.
       There’s no rush. You have 19 days from the “issue” date of the
       claim to acknowledge service. By acknowledging service, you then
       have 33 days from the “issue” date of the claim to submit your
       defence.
       Before any claim is issued, DCB Legal have to respond to your
       letter that you have just sent as it has some questions that
       require answering.
       #Post#: 42031--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: settop23
       Date: October 23, 2024, 9:11 am
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       Hi, I see thank you for the information. I was quite confused as
       to whether the letter from DCB legal was an official letter
       before claim or not, but I will wait to see if and when they
       reply to the letter
       #Post#: 46903--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: settop23
       Date: November 25, 2024, 4:40 am
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       This is the response to the email I sent to DCB Legal :
       The parking charge was been issued as per the Contract. A
       charge of £70.00 has been added to the sum as per the
       contractual costs outlined on the signs, as our Client has had
       to go to the expense of instructing debt collection agencies to
       recover the debt. Had you of paid as per the Contract, there
       would have been no need for recovery action so the amount due
       would not have increased.
       
       Please note, the HMRC ‘VAT Supply and Consideration manual’
       (VATSC06140), which was last updated on 02 September 2020,
       confirmed that Parking Charge Notices fall out of the scope of
       VAT.
       
       You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment
       of £510.00. Failure to make payment may result in a Claim being
       issued against you without any further reference.
       Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client
       account: -
       
       You must quote the correct case reference (--) when making
       payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate
       the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an
       incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any
       further fees or costs incurred.
       #Post#: 46913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: b789
       Date: November 25, 2024, 5:33 am
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       All boilerplate stuff. Where did this alleged contravention take
       place? The name of the car park?
       Can you get a clear phot of the signs with the terms at the
       location? They are claiming that the signs included mention of
       the £70 fee. We know it is a lie that it cost them £70 to engage
       a debt collector when they in fact operate on a no-win, no-fee
       basis. The governments own analysis of their costs in the Impact
       Statement issued earlier this year show that on average, it
       costs the PPCs less than £9 per claim (not per PCN) in recovery
       costs.
       Anyway, a phot of the signs would help if possible.
       With regards to their mendacious statement about VAT, you should
       report them to HMRC for suspected VAT fraud. There is no
       comeback and it takes literally minutes to do so online here:
  HTML https://www.gov.uk/report-tax-fraud
       Whilst the PCN is non-VATable, any debt recovery fee is
       definitely liable to VAT and they have not answered the second
       question asked in your response to their LoC.
       You can tell that you are dealing with intellectually
       malnourished individuals by this little bit in their response:
       --- Quote ---
       > Had you of paid...
       --- End Quote ---
       You are now waiting for the N1SDT claim form to arrive from the
       CNBC. When it does, show us the Particulars of Claim (PoC) and
       the issue date and we will provide guidance on the next step
       which will be the Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) and any
       deadlines.
       #Post#: 47811--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: settop23
       Date: December 1, 2024, 6:16 pm
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       Yes a very vague and unhelpful response from them.  I will see
       if i can get a photo of the signage where i parked this week and
       post back if they send any further communcations
       #Post#: 47820--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: December 2, 2024, 2:53 am
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       I did receieve some letters before this but have not responded
       to any as I am only the RK of the vehicle and did not know
       anything about it.
       I will see if i can get a photo of the signage where i parked
       this week and post back if they send any further communcations
       ??
       #Post#: 47827--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: b789
       Date: December 2, 2024, 4:00 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > I did receieve some letters before this but have not responded
       to any as I am only the RK of the vehicle and did not know
       anything about it.
       >
       > I will see if i can get a photo of the signage where i parked
       this week and post back if they send any further communcations
       >
       > ??
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Irrelevant to the case.
       #Post#: 51725--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: settop23
       Date: January 3, 2025, 1:10 am
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       Hello,
       i received a claim form on 10 December. Apologies I have been so
       busy that I only saw the claim form a day or two before
       Christmas. I have done the AoS on 22 December and I think I need
       to submit my defence very soon?
       I will post the PoC in a few hours. I haven’t been able to go to
       the location in question to check the signage but I can do that
       this week. Please could you advise when I need to file a defence
       by
       #Post#: 51741--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: b789
       Date: January 3, 2025, 5:46 am
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       It's the issue date on the front of the form that we need to
       know, not the actual date you received it.
       What is the issue date?
       #Post#: 51755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Letter before claim from DCB legal
   DIR By: settop23
       Date: January 3, 2025, 7:41 am
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       Hello
       The issue date is 10 December on the claim form. I have attached
       the claim form
       Thanks
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