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       Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: disheartened59
       Date: October 15, 2024, 2:00 pm
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       I have received PCN HR75844074dated 02/10/2024, Offence Sunday
       29/09/2024 16:31.
       I live in Waltham Forest but have had to go to Harrow about 5
       times in the last 2 years, the last time I got a pcn at the same
       place on a sunday and assumed I had missed a bus lane. My son is
       usually navigating but on this occasion he was not. On the 29/9
       he was navigating and we were looking out for the bus lane we
       were in a stream of traffic at least 2 cars behind and a car in
       front and a primary school van in front of that. I could not see
       the sign soon enough to stop safely as did the car in front and
       also the car behind is shown in the photo to be past the start
       of the chevrons. And the 2  cars behind that are driing on the
       left hand side.
       There is no other warning signs and  in my opinion I need to be
       driving down this stretch of road at 20MPH to be able to safely
       avoid future penalty notices. I could have avoided the bus gate
       if I am prepared to not watch out for bikers.
       My son did not even see the bus gate sign.
       I intend to appeal and ask for the cctv, it looks like every car
       is driving to the left to allow space because there are cars
       parked on the opposite side of the road.
       I am hoping the CCTV will support my case regarding the van, and
       the parked cars at the time of the incident.
       I try to get as much information on the routes where I am
       travelling before setting off.
       Advice needed before making appeal.
       #Post#: 40924--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 15, 2024, 4:48 pm
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       Read this, and update your thread. No meaingful advice can be
       give unless we can see (1) the PCN, and (2) the video of the
       alleged contravention : -
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       #Post#: 44352--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: disheartened59
       Date: November 7, 2024, 5:19 am
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       Thank you very much for the advices. I was unable to upload the
       pictures but I intend to upload them today.
       I had my Notice of Representations rejected the letter dated 22
       October and i have 28 days to appeal.
       The pcn has a very short video.
       I am inexperienced in the use of forums hence the delays.
       I have just worked out how to modify and you are reading the
       proof!
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       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: November 7, 2024, 2:57 pm
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       Please show what you wrote and their NOR. I won a case recently
       against them for a member.
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       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: disheartened59
       Date: November 7, 2024, 3:12 pm
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       I wrote what is on my original post. I requested the cctv which
       has been ignored but there is a short video on the PCN. I
       intended to contact them for the cctv but I cannot find a
       telephone number, email address, or postal address to do a
       written request.
       I have the photos of the Rejection of Representation on the
       computer and am going to try and get them loaded on here
       tonight.[attach=1]
       Above is the first page of the NOR only two paragraphs on the
       second page starting you can appeal.
       I will try tomorrow to get the photos on properly.
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       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:44 am
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       parking.enforcement@harrow.gov.uk
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       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: disheartened59
       Date: November 8, 2024, 7:58 am
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       Many thanks
       I have emailed Harrow the first one I did not include the car
       registration and my name in the subject, on receipt of the
       automated confirmation email stating these needed to be on the
       email
       , I promptly sent a  :) second email with these included.  I
       hope to get the photos on properly later tonight. I have found
       further help.
       Please see the images on Imgur
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/si65sMS
       
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  HTML https://imgur.com/a/si65sMS[/img]
       #Post#: 44664--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: November 8, 2024, 3:19 pm
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       PCN details
       Using A Route Restricted To Certain Vehicles Buses, Cycles And
       Taxis Only
       Date:
       29/09/202429 September 2024
       Time:
       16:31
       Location:
       CAMROSE AVENUE
       Payment due:
       £130.00
       Payment status:
       PCN on hold
       #Post#: 45655--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: disheartened59
       Date: November 14, 2024, 3:52 pm
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       Please see image link for PCN letter
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/dXXqZ2r
       
       Link is for the the letter /email received today deciding not to
       cancel the PCN. And stating that the choices and timescales in
       the NOR letter still apply.
       I have applied for a copy of the cctv by email tonight.
       They have not supplied a copy of my initial representation so I
       have not been able to check the exact wording and inclusion  of
       the reduction in the speed limit.
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       Re: Harrow Camrose Avenue Bus Gate 33E
   DIR By: Hippocrates
       Date: November 15, 2024, 3:25 am
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       PM sent. Let's get on with this. Sorted.
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