DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
FreeTrafficLegalAdvice
HTML https://ftla.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so ...
*****************************************************
#Post#: 40775--------------------------------------------------
Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: sledge1uk
Date: October 14, 2024, 6:28 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Just received a Slough Wellington St bus Lane PCN. The PCN video
link shows me entering the bus lane just before the bus lane
ends where the road marking arrow points left. Need to get both
sides of the original PCN to screen shoot it to reduce its size
then post it here as the one I had forwarded to me is too large
to post here.
I am the registered Keeper but the log book address given is
about 8 miles away as spend a lot of time overseas and have got
back to the UK for a few nasty surprises like PCNs
#Post#: 40777--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 14, 2024, 6:44 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Please read this and update your thread as necessary: -
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
If you're posting documents, redact only name and address, and
use a hosting site to post them, because space on this forum is
very limited.
We will need to see the video, their sole evidence of the
allegation.
#Post#: 42986--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 29, 2024, 2:19 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
HTML https://i.imgur.com/6mLvvKs.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/7gPf3Iq.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/wLyDvcH.jpeg
HTML https://i.imgur.com/n6Pizyv.jpeg
Video:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVR5d9jZENU
[member=1848]sledge1uk[/member] any particular reason you cut
into the bus lane?
The original TRO is The Borough of Slough (Various Roads) Bus
Lane Order 2020
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/14Od8Z_u8xvlpaAHIEfDcbvnOPt-JSiJe/view<br
/>but it's obviously been amended to reduce the hours of
operation
of the bus lane to peak times only.
#Post#: 43198--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: October 30, 2024, 3:04 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
sledge: I have sent you a PM.
#Post#: 43209--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: sledge1uk
Date: October 30, 2024, 3:49 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Not familiar with this site.
Has anybody got a challenge template similar to this PCN wording
/signage etc which I can use to edit and submit and what day do
I need to submit it
Cheers Paul
#Post#: 43410--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: sledge1uk
Date: October 31, 2024, 3:22 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Hi I just came across this and need to measure back and assume
this 20m starts as soon as the passenger wheel crosses the outer
bus lane line .
"Given that the most common complaint among drivers is that
they moved to the left slightly too early in order to turn left,
the most significant ground for appealing a bus lane fine is
that drivers are permitted 20 metres of grace – approximately
five car lengths. So if the supplied photographic and (in some
cases) video evidence does not show the car travelling more than
20 metres in the bus lane, there are good grounds for an
adjudicator to throw out the PCN."
Anybody used this and won.
[attachment deleted by admin]
#Post#: 43421--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 31, 2024, 5:52 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: sledge1uk link ---
>
> Hi I just came across this and need to measure back and assume
this 20m starts as soon as the passenger wheel crosses the outer
bus lane line .
>
>
> "Given that the most common complaint among drivers is that
they moved to the left slightly too early in order to turn left,
the most significant ground for appealing a bus lane fine is
that drivers are permitted 20 metres of grace – approximately
five car lengths. So if the supplied photographic and (in some
cases) video evidence does not show the car travelling more than
20 metres in the bus lane, there are good grounds for an
adjudicator to throw out the PCN."
>
> Anybody used this and won.
>
--- End Quote ---
I've seen this 20 metre "rule" quoted a few times, but it is not
in any regulations, and just an indication of what could be an
appeal based on de minimis. No adjudicator is bound by any 20
metre rule, as there isn't one.
#Post#: 43470--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: November 1, 2024, 5:34 am
---------------------------------------------------------
+1. There is no 20 metre rule. It is a myth - and one London
adjudicator and I had a discussion about this some months ago.
#Post#: 43586--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: November 2, 2024, 5:02 am
---------------------------------------------------------
For later, I've just got this back from the council:
[indent]
The make and model of the bus lane enforcement camera on
Wellington Street as shown in your Google maps link is:
Make - TES Small Blue Enforcement CCTV Camera
Model - Blue Gen2
[/indent]
#Post#: 43873--------------------------------------------------
Re: Slough Wellington St Bus lane PCN
DIR By: sledge1uk
Date: November 4, 2024, 5:57 am
---------------------------------------------------------
]The make and model of the bus lane enforcement camera on
Wellington Street as shown in your Google maps link is:
Make - TES Small Blue Enforcement CCTV Camera
Model - Blue Gen2
Thanks for that and does that mean the camera is non Compliant
as a challenge if it gets to the tribunal stage?
Can you please clarify the day I have to make representation.
Date of Notice sent 10/10/2024 which was a Thursday+2 working
days =14 Oct +28days = 11 Nov deadline.
Any reason not to do it now with " The contravention did not
exist" before I forget.
Thanks Sledge
*****************************************************
Page 1 of 2
DIR Next Page