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Permanent export of car to Spain
By: PallasAthena Date: October 14, 2024, 6:12 am
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I'm buying a new car and when I get it I am gifting my current
car to my daughter who is permanently resident in Valencia in
Spain (has legal 'residencia') and she has a Spanish driving
licence. My current car is 10 years old, 90,000+ miles, value
c£1,600. I am current Registered Keeper, it's taxed and MOT'd,
and insured in my name [daughter not a named driver].
Daughter plans to re-register it in Spain, get Spanish number
plates for it, and make it fully Spanish-compliant with whatever
the Spanish equivalents of MOT and car tax are. It's a second
car for her, she already has one car, Spanish number plates,
which she insures etc there.
The plan is that I will drive it down to Valencia, spend a few
days there, then fly back leaving the car with her. I will give
her a letter confirming I have transferred ownership to her. She
will then add it to her Spanish motor insurance policy while she
gets it re-registered. As soon as I get back to the UK I will
cancel my UK insurance on it and notify DVLA.
As far as the DVLA is concerned it looks like all I need to do
is return Section 11 'Notification of permanent export' of the
V5C to DVLA and give the rest of the V5C (sections 1 - 8 anyway)
to my daughter as it may be needed by the Spanish authorities
to do the re-registration. DVLA will then cancel the car tax and
return to me whatever amount of the unused tax I am entitled to.
As I've decalred it permanently exported I don't need to SORN
and they shouldn't be chasing me because it will no longer be
listed as taxed or insured on their UK databases.
Does that sound right? Anything I have missed?
However a Spanish company (run by Brits) that advises ex-pats on
re-registering UK cars in Spain has given some different advice
that has confused us. They suggest I re-register it with DVLA in
my daughter's name in the UK before taking it Spain. This seems
an unnecessarily complicated way of doing it. And technically
not even possible as she has no UK address and DVLA won't
register a UK car to a non-UK resident will they? Registering to
her name at my address would be the work-around but I'm not
seeing the need.
What they said is: "Whenever you change the registered keeper of
a UK the vehicle the road tax is cancelled. As such it would be
better to change the name in the UK and re tax the car before
you come to Spain" but that seems to misunderstand what we are
planning to do. The cancelling of the UK car tax is intended!
Does anyone have any experience of this?
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Re: Permanent export of car to Spain
By: 666 Date: October 14, 2024, 6:41 am
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So far as I can see, you are right and the "adviser" is wrong.
#Post#: 40691--------------------------------------------------
Re: Permanent export of car to Spain
By: andy_foster Date: October 14, 2024, 9:45 am
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I'm not an expert in this area, but you are permanently
exporting the car. It has to be legal in the UK to drive it to
the ferry/chunnel/whatever (which is the usual question). I
don't know what, if any, evidence the DVLA need of permanent
export - that would be my main/only concern.
If you were selling the car to someone rando who was going to do
the exporting, then you would want to be simply transferring
keepership to them, rather than making a declaration as to what
they may or may not actually do with the car. That might be the
source of the otherwise strange advice.
#Post#: 40704--------------------------------------------------
Re: Permanent export of car to Spain
By: PallasAthena Date: October 14, 2024, 10:34 am
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The V5C form doesn't require anything to be declared about to
where the vehicle has been exported or who 'keepership' has been
transferred to, only that I sign the declaration that on date X
"I am personally exporting this vehicle permanently". So I
personally am doing the exporting. Nothing on V5C suggests DVLA
require any evidence of permanent export other than my signature
on the declaration.
It will remain legal for me to drive it all the way to Valencia
and while I am there as my insurance covers that, and it will
remain in my ownership/'keepership' until I fly out of Spain
leaving the car with my daughter. Only at the point where I
transfer ownership to her as I wave goodbye and head for the
airport will it cease to be covered by my insurance.
#Post#: 44805--------------------------------------------------
Re: Permanent export of car to Spain
By: jedi Date: November 9, 2024, 3:28 pm
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I'm pretty sure when you register it in Spain , it will be
marked as exported, automatically with dlva, you will probably
have to pay a Spanish import tax, price varies on size if
engine/emissions etc.
Head lamps will need changing, rear fog and reverse lights will
need to go on the opposite side, unless they are already there.
Also side mirrors may need changing.
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Re: Permanent export of car to Spain
By: mickR Date: November 9, 2024, 3:35 pm
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on a different note as your daughter lives in Valencia I hope
she is OK
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Re: Permanent export of car to Spain
By: PallasAthena Date: November 10, 2024, 8:35 am
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Thank you for asking mickR. She was fortunately unscathed by it.
Lots of rain but no torrents of flood, mud, and debris in her
small town.
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Re: Permanent export of car to Spain
By: roythebus Date: November 13, 2024, 2:47 am
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The only reason i can see for transferring ownership prior to
export is to save on possible import duty in the destination
country. As I understand it, if it's "yours" and "you" intend to
stay there with the car, there's no duty. If you export it and
give /sell it to her, then there may be duty to pay.
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