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Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: eyalmms
Date: October 14, 2024, 9:22 am
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> Can you show us that document or a link to it please?
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With pleasure!
HTML https://www.harrow.gov.uk/downloads/file/30121/Highway_Adoption_Register_v3i.pdf
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Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: b789
Date: October 14, 2024, 9:30 am
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If it is an unadopted highway, that only means that it is
privately maintained, but it may or may not be subject to
statutory control. Check for any Traffic Regulation Orders (TRO)
or other regulations governing the road, as these would indicate
statutory control. If such controls exist, the road would not
qualify as "relevant land" under PoFA. If no such controls are
in place, the road should be considered private land under PoFA,
and keeper liability could apply.
#Post#: 40692--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: eyalmms
Date: October 14, 2024, 9:46 am
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> If it is an unadopted highway, that only means that it is
privately maintained, but it may or may not be subject to
statutory control. Check for any Traffic Regulation Orders (TRO)
or other regulations governing the road, as these would indicate
statutory control. If such controls exist, the road would not
qualify as "relevant land" under PoFA. If no such controls are
in place, the road should be considered private land under PoFA,
and keeper liability could apply.
>
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Can't find anything on Google and the cost to search on the
harrow website is similar to paying the reduced amount on the
ticket. Does the seeming lack of controls improve or diminish my
chances of appealing? Do I need to amend the verbatim blurb you
posted originally?
Cheers
Eyal
#Post#: 40707--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: b789
Date: October 14, 2024, 10:50 am
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No. The appeal is going to be rejected no matter what you put in
it.
#Post#: 40708--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 14, 2024, 10:53 am
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Whereabouts are you looking where they are demanding a fee? That
seems like the sort of information that wound ordinarily be
available for free, either already published, or via an FOI
request.
#Post#: 40709--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: eyalmms
Date: October 14, 2024, 10:55 am
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> No. The appeal is going to be rejected no matter what you put
in it.
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Right. I suppose I mean based on the fact I can't find any
controls, should I still appeal? Or am I still good to fight?
Thanks
#Post#: 40710--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 14, 2024, 10:58 am
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There are other grounds to appeal - the point raised about
checking for TROs/TMOs was merely to see if there is another
ground of appeal that can be used at a later date. If there are
none then it's not a disaster, we can still look at other
grounds as already discussed, like the shoddy signage.
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Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: eyalmms
Date: October 14, 2024, 10:59 am
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> Whereabouts are you looking where they are demanding a fee?
That seems like the sort of information that wound ordinarily be
available for free, either already published, or via an FOI
request.
>
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HTML https://www.harrow.gov.uk/road-maintenance-travel/highway-searches
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Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 14, 2024, 11:08 am
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There's an email address provided here:
HTML https://www.harrow.gov.uk/road-maintenance-travel/traffic-management-orders
HTML https://www.harrow.gov.uk/road-maintenance-travel/traffic-management-orders<br
/>- give that a try. If no joy, you could send in a Freedom of
Information request for any existing orders on that road.
#Post#: 44579--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked on private land on mistaken advice of resident
DIR By: eyalmms
Date: November 8, 2024, 7:37 am
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I've not had a reply to my appeal
The automated reply said to contact them if no response after 14
days
Should I do that, or just leave them to it?
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