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#Post#: 43617--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 2, 2024, 8:26 am
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OP, whatever happened happened and I can't see any point in
trying to change this.
Perhaps....
On the day in question I was accompanying my father on a
shopping trip or whatever it was;
We returned to *** where he lives and I parked:
We had several bags of shopping and therefore I had to make two
journeys, the first to assist my father the second to collect
and unload his shopping.
I would estimate that both trips took no longer than ** in
total.
As a matter of habit we placed his BB and I thought that this
had been displayed but accept that this wasn't the case and that
part had fallen into the footwell.
I didn't find the PCN until I came to drive away - I can see why
from the CEO's photos which show the PCN obscured when
approaching the car from the rear. But whether this was issued
during my first or second trip I don't know.
I can say that neither journey took longer than necessary and
therefore I would submit that whether under the grounds of
assisted alighting or unloading the PCN should be cancelled. In
addition, if neither of these exemptions is accepted I would ask
that the authority exercise discretion on this occasion.
Wait for others.
#Post#: 43631--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: dbcc33
Date: November 2, 2024, 9:43 am
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Thanks HCA, that's very helpful.
with regards to going over it i was just thinking about how to
avoid this in future (other than buying a holder that is!).
#Post#: 43657--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 2, 2024, 1:03 pm
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It seems clear they don't want to cancel because they are
aggrieved about a previous cancellation but you said they were
different circumstances.
I would wait for the NTO and we'll help you draft reps.
#Post#: 43742--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: dbcc33
Date: November 3, 2024, 9:03 am
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OK thanks, so now i don't do anything until the NTO ?
#Post#: 43754--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 3, 2024, 11:02 am
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There's nothing you can do other than send another challenge but
Harrow will probably tell you to wait for the NTO.
Is the logbook up to date with correct address.
#Post#: 43906--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: dbcc33
Date: November 4, 2024, 8:55 am
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Yes log book up to date.
I didnt realise i could send another challenge now. How do i do
that? via email? is it worth submitting something along the
lines of HCA's template or better to just wait for nto.
Basically if there's anything i can do within the 14 days that
makes it more likely for them to preserve the discount at the
formal appeal stage then maybe its worth doing....
#Post#: 43916--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 4, 2024, 10:29 am
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My suggestion is for the NTO.
#Post#: 43920--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 4, 2024, 10:44 am
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Agreed - I know you want to avoid paying full price but they
rely on people caving in. Just wait for the NTO.
#Post#: 44613--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: dbcc33
Date: November 8, 2024, 10:38 am
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Thanks/ Do you know of any of these that have been successfully
appealed that had a 7min or more observation period? as the
others in the examples seem to have shorter times
#Post#: 44620--------------------------------------------------
Re: Harrow PCN Parked in residents bay without valid permit, BB
holder, half of badge fell off dashboard
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 8, 2024, 10:52 am
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Obs period is not the issue if, as you say, you took your father
to the destination, returned as quickly as permissible and then
similar for the load.
The obs take as long as they take.
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