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Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: fttboy
Date: August 7, 2023, 6:49 am
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Hi,
I read some posts about successful appeal against failing to
comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles (52M) but
there seemed to have been mitigating circumstances on that
occasion.
I received penalty charge notice (PCN) from Barking & Dagenham
for driving on prohibited section of Longbridge Road, Barking
dated 03/08/2023.
I hadn't been aware of prohibition on a section of that road,
and certainly didn't notice any sign. I drove through in the
morning and again later in the afternoon so I have received two
PCNs dated same day but different times. If paid b4 end of 14
day period I can pay a discounted charge of £65 for each
otherwise I am looking at £260 total.
Is there any ground for appeal? Links to PCNs are attached
below. Thanks for the anticipated feedback.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/tYM1G7B.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/742K35y.png
HTML https://i.imgur.com/Z0VUG1u.png
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 7, 2023, 6:56 am
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Please post a GSV link to the location - there's a lot of
Longbridge Road(s) in Barking!
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 7, 2023, 7:08 am
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[member=385]fttboy[/member] read the instructions here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/<br
/>for how to share the google street view location (you need to
do
this on a computer, not a phone / ipad).
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: fttboy
Date: August 7, 2023, 10:16 am
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Hello,
thanks [member=1]cp8759[/member] and [member=5]John
U.K.[/member] I have attached google street map link below
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/Bk7rK6kKtMkAFVwe8
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 7, 2023, 10:31 am
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So you passed these signs?
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/oMBLgtQiCZyv5QwE8
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 7, 2023, 2:26 pm
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BZ99502628:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcGO2365mig
BZ9950280A:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s57FlF3zvM8
Maybe for the first one you could argue that the sign was
obscured by the bus. I can't see an offside sign on GSV.
Also, there should be more pages?
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: August 7, 2023, 3:18 pm
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> Maybe for the first one you could argue that the sign was
obscured by the bus. I can't see an offside sign on GSV.
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The nearside sign is an oddity - perhaps there for the camera's
benefit?
As far as I could see, the OP had to have passed these
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/oMBLgtQiCZyv5QwE8
which is why I asked him to confirm. Reply#4
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: fttboy
Date: August 8, 2023, 4:18 am
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Reply #4
So you passed these signs?
HTML https://goo.gl/maps/oMBLgtQiCZyv5QwE.
I must have passed them. But I never saw them..[no excuses] but
coming round the roundabout on lane 2/3 and then heading for
that restriction zone it is near impossible to notice them b4
you have gone through, particularly if you are driving on that
road for the first time.
[member=1]cp8759[/member]
the other pages relate to representations. Sorry that I did not
attach earlier.
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: August 9, 2023, 5:16 pm
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Traffic order here: The London Borough of Barking and Dagenham
(Banned Turns and Prohibitions) (Various Roads) Order 2022
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1_zw1Mjc1LJXQITIn_6yS6wusdVzA5x4q.
Short of trying to trip up the authority, I can't see anything
to go on here. See what others say.
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Re: Barking 52M Failing to comply with prohibition
DIR By: fttboy
Date: August 10, 2023, 5:05 am
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[member=1]cp8759[/member]
Thanks for this information.
The way I'm seeing it appears that my appeal will hinge on poor
signage and prohibition on U-turn on those roads.
Like you said, perhaps someone might add something to it.
Much appreciated.
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