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       #Post#: 40548--------------------------------------------------
       Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: Captainships1
       Date: October 13, 2024, 11:08 am
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       Hi guys,
       A family member's car got ticketed and towed away within 30 mins
       for allegedly not having a valid ticket/permit.
       However, there was a valid session in place via PayByPhone app
       and we have proof of this.
       We had to pay the PCN and the release fee to get the car back.
       After that a representation was submitted with proof of valid
       parking session, however, the Council has rejected this,
       insisting there was no valid session in place.
       We have a few days left to submit the appeal to the tribunal.
       Can anyone help?
       I have uploaded the original PCN, proof of session and the
       Council's rejection letter here:
  HTML https://postimg.cc/gallery/3HJQn4C
       If anyone can help and willing to represent, I'll share the
       appeal code (I've blacked it out in the link as I wasn't sure).
       Many thanks.
       #Post#: 40564--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 13, 2024, 1:12 pm
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       The council numpties seem to have been confused by the date on
       your PbP receipt, which has the date in an unusual order of
       yyyy/mm/dd, thus thinking it relates to 8th July, not 7th
       August. Can you post up the full PbP transation please. There is
       no time/date for the parking transaction itself, only the times
       for the actual parking. Was the session taken out late ? PbP
       sessions are downloaded to CEO handheld terminals; this is how
       they check cars that have no actual parking ticket.
       If you are certain about the correctness of your case, don't
       pay, but register an appeal with London Tribunals. There are two
       things as I intimate above, (1) date format and council
       confusion, and (2) when was the parking session established,
       time and date.
       PLease note that in paying to get the car released, you have
       paid all there is to pay, and would not have to pay the
       additional £65 at London Tribunals even if you lose.
       #Post#: 40568--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: October 13, 2024, 1:36 pm
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       Register the appeal - there is nothing to lose. You can upload
       stuff later. Opt for a personal/telephone hearing.
       #Post#: 40583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: Captainships1
       Date: October 13, 2024, 4:17 pm
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       Thanks.
       I'll register the appeal.
       PS - the email confirmation for that parking session has
       unfortunately been deleted. However, the details remain on the
       PbP app. Here are two screenshots pertaining to that session:
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       #Post#: 40589--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 13, 2024, 4:46 pm
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       I had a look at the entries for this location you have kindly
       posted. None of them show the time the parking session was
       invoked by the app.
       Reason I ask is because we have seen many cases on this forum of
       people who park, and being in a hurry of whatever, trot off to
       do whatever they have parked for and the parking session isn't
       set up until some time after the time of actual parking. They
       are then shocked to get a PCN.  So can you please tell us your
       routine for parking at this location. Do you remain with the car
       until you get a positive message that parking has been set up ?
       #Post#: 40830--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: Captainships1
       Date: October 15, 2024, 8:05 am
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       The car wasn't left before the confirmation on the app/email.
       I'm not sure what difference that would make as the parking
       session was from 10:05 to 12:05 and the PCN was issued at 11:18.
       If the PCN was issued at 10:06 or thereabouts, I can understand
       the significance. However, the PCN was issued over one hour
       after the transaction took place.
       PS - they've set the date for the hearing. It's on 21 November
       at 15:30. It's in person. The letter says if we want this to be
       over the phone, to let them know by emailing.
       #Post#: 40839--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: October 15, 2024, 8:42 am
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       The representations pl.
       #Post#: 40855--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: mrmustard
       Date: October 15, 2024, 9:19 am
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       I'm happy to be your representative. Email mrmustard@zoho.com if
       you would like that. I do not charge. Donation to the hospice
       requested if you get your money back.
       #Post#: 40866--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: October 15, 2024, 10:03 am
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       This is a worrying case if there is an issue with the e-parking
       system, not least because Newham tows almost everything
       regardless of seriousness of contravention.
       Assuming all is in order - and it checks out in the info posted
       - and they either DNC or lose, I think it's worth the OP writing
       to ask what happened to both Newham and PayByPhone.
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       #Post#: 40876--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car impounded by Newham Council - Few days left to appeal to
       Tribual 
   DIR By: sparx
       Date: October 15, 2024, 11:44 am
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       --- Quote ---
       > This is a worrying case if there is an issue with the
       e-parking system
       --- End Quote ---
       I wondered if they'd got an O and 0 transposed, but it would
       appear that the CEO has input the reg correctly.
       OP, when did you get the "receipt" email from PayByPhone? Was it
       after the car was taken?
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