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#Post#: 40768--------------------------------------------------
Re: Statutory Declaration/Witness statement filled up and sent
on time but TEC did not process it .
DIR By: eanp83
Date: October 14, 2024, 5:20 pm
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
>
> The "reminder" letter from CDER dated the 9th Sept 2024 shows
that they're looking for a total of £895. There's £515 against
the PCN we started with and a further £380 oustanding against
ANOther unknown PCN.
>
> The PCN number is not on the letter and I can't reconcile the
£380. Perhaps you have an agreed payment plan and didn't keep up
with the payments? Or what else has happened?
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks a lot for reading and your valuable comments £380
Amount belongs to another PCN. My apologies in advance but I am
new in this kind of forums its really helpful every comment. I
am not sure how it really works yet and I wonder if Do I have
to reply to everyone?
#Post#: 40780--------------------------------------------------
Re: Statutory Declaration/Witness statement filled up and sent
on time but TEC did not process it .
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: October 14, 2024, 9:35 pm
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--- Quote from: eanp83 link ---
>
> [quote author=Enceladus link=topic=3437.msg40673#msg40673
date=1728911486]
> The "reminder" letter from CDER dated the 9th Sept 2024 shows
that they're looking for a total of £895. There's £515 against
the PCN we started with and a further £380 oustanding against
ANOther unknown PCN.
>
> The PCN number is not on the letter and I can't reconcile the
£380. Perhaps you have an agreed payment plan and didn't keep up
with the payments? Or what else has happened?
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks a lot for reading and your valuable comments £380 Amount
belongs to another PCN. My apologies in advance but I am new in
this kind of forums its really helpful every comment. I am not
sure how it really works yet and I wonder if Do I have to reply
to everyone?
[/quote]
No you don't have to reply to everyone unless you want to.
However in most cases the members ask questions to establish and
understand the facts. So if you want the best and most
comprehensive advice then you are normally well advised to
answer any reasonable question as best you can.
And just look at your situation. You started out by telling us
CDER were trying to get you to pay £515 and that the TEC had
failed to process a Statutory Declaration. When probed it turns
out that CDER actually want £895. And there are at least two
PCNs involved. And you have already had an SD referred to the
Adjudicator who ordered you to pay the £130 penalty. You didn't
pay and now the matter has escalated and the charges have
ballooned.
Is the below correct? Are there any more PCNs?
PCN LJ20253810 = £515 outstanding
PCN LJ23988879 = £380 outstanding
I ask because the £380 doesn't correlate with any amount the
bailiff could normally demand. The penalty charges have fixed
amounts at various stages and the bailiffs have strict costs
they can add when collecting the penalties. £380 outstanding for
a PCN doesn't make sense unless there has been a part payment
from you that's not mentioned. Also the combination of PCN
LJ23988879 / VRM WA68XJU can't be found on the Lambeth site.
Might there be a different car involved?
#Post#: 40935--------------------------------------------------
Re: Statutory Declaration/Witness statement filled up and sent
on time but TEC did not process it .
DIR By: eanp83
Date: October 15, 2024, 6:38 pm
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--- Quote from: Enceladus link ---
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> [quote author=eanp83 link=topic=3437.msg40768#msg40768
date=1728944421]
> [quote author=Enceladus link=topic=3437.msg40673#msg40673
date=1728911486]
> The "reminder" letter from CDER dated the 9th Sept 2024 shows
that they're looking for a total of £895. There's £515 against
the PCN we started with and a further £380 oustanding against
ANOther unknown PCN.
>
> The PCN number is not on the letter and I can't reconcile the
£380. Perhaps you have an agreed payment plan and didn't keep up
with the payments? Or what else has happened?
>
--- End Quote ---
Thanks a lot for reading and your valuable comments £380 Amount
belongs to another PCN. My apologies in advance but I am new in
this kind of forums its really helpful every comment. I am not
sure how it really works yet and I wonder if Do I have to reply
to everyone?
[/quote]
No you don't have to reply to everyone unless you want to.
However in most cases the members ask questions to establish and
understand the facts. So if you want the best and most
comprehensive advice then you are normally well advised to
answer any reasonable question as best you can.
And just look at your situation. You started out by telling us
CDER were trying to get you to pay £515 and that the TEC had
failed to process a Statutory Declaration. When probed it turns
out that CDER actually want £895. And there are at least two
PCNs involved. And you have already had an SD referred to the
Adjudicator who ordered you to pay the £130 penalty. You didn't
pay and now the matter has escalated and the charges have
ballooned.
Is the below correct? Are there any more PCNs?
PCN LJ20253810 = £515 outstanding
PCN LJ23988879 = £380 outstanding
I ask because the £380 doesn't correlate with any amount the
bailiff could normally demand. The penalty charges have fixed
amounts at various stages and the bailiffs have strict costs
they can add when collecting the penalties. £380 outstanding for
a PCN doesn't make sense unless there has been a part payment
from you that's not mentioned. Also the combination of PCN
LJ23988879 / VRM WA68XJU can't be found on the Lambeth site.
Might there be a different car involved?
[/quote]
PCN LJ23988879 = £380 outstanding is different car involved REG:
KH15 ARX I would say is pretty much different history Shall I
use a different post for this?
#Post#: 40941--------------------------------------------------
Re: Statutory Declaration/Witness statement filled up and sent
on time but TEC did not process it .
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: October 15, 2024, 10:11 pm
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--- Quote from: eanp83 link ---
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> PCN LJ23988879 = £380 outstanding is different car involved
REG: KH15 ARX I would say is pretty much different history Shall
I use a different post for this?
>
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Yes please, I suggest you start a separate thread for this PCN.
It's a different car and at a different stage of enforcement.
And please post up any documentation you have for this PCN in
the new thread. And give us the history. In particular you
should have a Notice of Enforcement from CDER. This should be
for £280, not £380.
£130 = PCN LJ23988879
£65 = 50% Charge Certificate surcharge
£10 = TEC registration fee
£205 = sub-total
plus
£75 = Bailiff's compliance stage fee
HTML https://bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/bailiff-fees/penalty-charge-notice-pcn<br
/>for Notice of Enforcement
£280 = Total
#Post#: 41123--------------------------------------------------
Re: Statutory Declaration/Witness statement filled up and sent
on time but TEC did not process it .
DIR By: Enceladus
Date: October 16, 2024, 10:07 pm
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Let's get back to PCN LJ20253810. On the 4th October 2022 the
Chief Adjudicator ordered you to pay this PCN at £130. You had
previously submitted a Statutory Declaration but failed to
respond to the Adjudicator's request for evidence.
You didn't pay the £130 so it escalated. Why didn't you pay it?
It looks like you then received an Order for Recovery dated the
22nd May 2024 and responded by submitting a new SD dated 10th
June 2024, which the TEC apparently failed to process. Or did
they reject your application?
The bailiffs will return and if they can find a car that belongs
to you parked anywhere in a public place then they'll clamp it,
tow it away and then auction it. You don't have to let them into
your residence, so don't or they'll try and seize your other
property. They can't tow a car that doesn't belong to you, eg a
hire car or leased, but they might well try it on. I don't know
if a PHV might be exempt, you'll need somebody else to confirm
the rules.
I believe you have nowhere to go except to pay the £515, to ward
off further escalation. Doing so doesn't preclude you submitting
your SD with the requested Out of Time application. But be aware
that submitting a false declaration is a criminal offence and
might backfire on you big time. It says so on the bottom of the
form itself.
You can get further advice by contacting Bailiff Advice Online
HTML https://bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/
and I suggest you do so
immediately
#Post#: 41147--------------------------------------------------
Re: Statutory Declaration/Witness statement filled up and sent
on time but TEC did not process it .
DIR By: Neil B
Date: October 17, 2024, 4:46 am
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Just going back to the original question.
You can't submit a second Stat Dec just because you ignored the
outcome of the first one.
It's very clear that you have been misadvised along the way.
I don't believe there is anything you can do now other than pay.
Not even the OOT application that Enceladus suggests.
And next time come here for proper advice.
One thing we haven't examined yet is >>> do these vehicles
actually belong to you? i.e. do you hold the V5C for them
are/were they hired/leased?
Do you personally own any vehicles at all?
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