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Mistakes in TRO
DIR By: kno
Date: October 10, 2024, 9:42 am
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I came across a report from Reading Council where the TROs
themselves had faults. I have seen cp8759 getting TROs, and
analysing PCNs against it, but how does someone validate TROs
itself?
Do they go through audit, or does someone flag it up the totem
pole after a certain time?
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Re: Mistakes in TRO
DIR By: andy_foster
Date: October 10, 2024, 10:51 am
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Most likely, an "activist" has obtained the TRO and found that
it does not lawfully provide such restrictions as are sought to
be enforced by the council revenue machine.
Quite how someone "validates" a TRO would seem to depend on what
meaning you are attempting to ascribe to the nebulous term
"validate".
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Re: Mistakes in TRO
DIR By: roythebus
Date: October 12, 2024, 2:36 am
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About 15-18 years ago my locl authority TROs had parking
restrictions in streets that didn't exist. After intervention by
"an activist" (me) and internet research (ppp) it was found that
a number of roads in New Romney with parking restictions weren't
actually on the TRO. Well, not for New Romney. they were
included in the TRO for Lydd, some five miles distant. Somebody
had perpetuated the mistake by cutting and pasting and posting
in the wrong town. It saved me quite a bit in parking fines.
Nobody had bothered proof reading anything.
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Re: Mistakes in TRO
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 19, 2024, 7:26 am
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--- Quote from: kno link ---
>
> I came across a report from Reading Council where the TROs
themselves had faults. I have seen cp8759 getting TROs, and
analysing PCNs against it, but how does someone validate TROs
itself?
>
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You read the TRO and check if it creates the restriction the
authority purports to enforce, here's some examples:
Sudhish Kumar v London Borough of Camden (2220603349, 28
September 2022)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xb2YGXmxwlBbqKt19wcsqZ1GMnTyR_K8/view<br
/>which originates from this facebook post
HTML https://www.facebook.com/groups/590815702229179/posts/744839203493494.
Bertan Atalay v London Borough of Camden (2230051861, 1 March
2023)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zh7lJdBnyNvLrOsMZzCjGRS78zUZ3KpG/view<br
/>which originated from here
HTML https://web.archive.org/web/20230702125712/http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=148223&mode=linear.
John Hayes v London Borough of Camden (223050740A, 8 January
2024)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M28mFAUgQenu5ejE4F2uI3sVqN77DT-k/view<br
/>which originated here
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/camden-murray-street-code-52m-failing-to-comply-with-a-prohibition-on-certain-ty/.
Hershel Gluck v London Borough of Hackney (2210675864, 18 June
2021)
HTML https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tbpPzERxEpCfXsInYUJFNi5IGX75Cxzc/view
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Re: Mistakes in TRO
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 20, 2024, 1:07 pm
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OP, is the council asking people to believe that none of these
PCNs was challenged and/or that none of these questioned the
applicable TRO and that somehow whatever errors were discovered
escaped the attention of an army of council officers who penned
rejections and assembled evidence for tribunals and/or that
whatever errors were present escaped dozens of adjudicators over
the years?
IMO, as Big X said in the film The Great Escape..DIG!
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Re: Mistakes in TRO
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 27, 2024, 5:47 pm
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