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#Post#: 40306--------------------------------------------------
Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: gm1985
Date: October 11, 2024, 3:07 am
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If I was to challenge the fine and went to court, would the most
likely outcome if I lost 25%-75% of my weekly wage.
#Post#: 40316--------------------------------------------------
Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: BertB
Date: October 11, 2024, 4:27 am
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> The street view I’m looking at was June 2024, but I will go in
person and check
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The streetview for the location you have attempted to link to is
dated 2022 as NJ says.
HTML https://www.google.com/maps/place/53°49'35.7%22N+1°34'32.0%22W/@53.826571,-1.575546,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d53.826571!4d-1.575546?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTAwNy4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Streetview
HTML https://tinyurl.com/a9w2fnw8
So long as repeaters meet the requirements there does not need
to be one specifically before the camera van.
#Post#: 40319--------------------------------------------------
Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: 666
Date: October 11, 2024, 4:31 am
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--- Quote from: gm1985 link ---
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> If I was to challenge the fine and went to court, would the
most likely outcome if I lost 25%-75% of my weekly wage.
>
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50%, in the absence of any mitigating or aggravating factors you
haven't disclosed.
Plus the victim surcharge: 40% of the fine.
Plus prosecution costs: c.£600.
And three points.
#Post#: 40325--------------------------------------------------
Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: gm1985
Date: October 11, 2024, 5:11 am
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Sorry might be a dumb question but who is the victim to warrant
a victim surcharge. The road was empty of cars and pedestrians
where I was driving.
#Post#: 40336--------------------------------------------------
Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: BertB
Date: October 11, 2024, 5:52 am
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Its a collective fund. Basically a tax added to all guilty
verdicts, there doesn't need to be a victim in each individual
case.
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Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: DrSatan
Date: October 11, 2024, 5:52 am
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--- Quote from: gm1985 link ---
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> Sorry might be a dumb question but who is the victim to
warrant a victim surcharge. The road was empty of cars and
pedestrians where I was driving.
>
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The money from victim surcharges effectively dumped in one big
pot and is used to fund general victim services, and you don't
escape it by arguing that there was no specific victim in your
case.
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Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: 666
Date: October 11, 2024, 5:56 am
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--- Quote from: gm1985 link ---
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> Sorry might be a dumb question but who is the victim to
warrant a victim surcharge. The road was empty of cars and
pedestrians where I was driving.
>
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The Criminal Injuries Compensation Scheme exists to help
victims. It is (partly) funded by the surcharge, which applies
to all fines in criminal courts.
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Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: Logician
Date: October 11, 2024, 6:01 am
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It is not related to your specific case, it is a general fund
for all crime victims, or a surcharge on all fines, depending on
how you look at it.
You would be very ill-advised to contest this case on the basis
of inadequate signage in my view, looking at Google Streetview,
that is a very flimsy argument.
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Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: October 11, 2024, 6:02 am
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--- Quote from: gm1985 link ---
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> Sorry might be a dumb question but who is the victim to
warrant a victim surcharge. The road was empty of cars and
pedestrians where I was driving.
>
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Victims in general, not a specific victim. It’s levelled on all
fines.
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Re: NOIP 24 in 20 zone
DIR By: Dave Green
Date: October 11, 2024, 8:40 am
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--- Quote from: gm1985 link ---
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> Sorry might be a dumb question but who is the victim to
warrant a victim surcharge. The road was empty of cars and
pedestrians where I was driving.
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HTML https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/sentencing-and-the-council/types-of-sentence/other-orders-made-on-sentencing/what-is-the-victim-surcharge/
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