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       #Post#: 40036--------------------------------------------------
       Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: tonys
       Date: October 9, 2024, 2:35 pm
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       Our car was in for a mechanical repair. The garage has had it
       for over a week before I phoned to ask what was happening. I am
       told that after the repair, and after their test drive, another
       customer hit our car while it was parked. This damaged the door,
       door handle and mirror. I think that makes it undrivable, with
       no driver's side mirror.
       Currently they're expecting their body shop to come and give a
       quote. I'm told that the other party accepted responsibility and
       will either pay or pass it to his insurer.
       I'm not sure on the legal side. I am assuming the accident
       occurred on the site, private land but regularly accessed by
       customers. Is there any reason why the driver would be exempt
       from the legal obligation to provide his details and his
       insurance?
       I think I need to report this to my insurer, not sure whether to
       do so right away. Would there be any harm waiting until I know
       more? Or report right away, let them know that I don't expect
       any claim to be made on my policy.
       I'm also unsure on the garage's obligations. I know businesses
       often try to evade any liability for this sort of thing, but in
       this case they've clearly moved our car around so it's not as if
       I'd just parked it in their car park. And the fact that they've
       effectively entered into negotiation with the third party must
       have some significance. Are they acting as my agent, or what? If
       they've allowed this guy to leave without getting his details
       and insurance details then my feeling is I might have some
       comeback against them.
       Just now my plan is to call the garage tomorrow, get an update
       but also ask them for full details of the third party and their
       insurance.
       Any thoughts on any of this?
       Thanks
       #Post#: 40039--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: October 9, 2024, 2:50 pm
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       If you have a problem, we are generally happy to advise.
       However, the situation appears to being dealt with by the
       garage, and you appear to be looking for any potential
       hypothetical problem to make some noise about.
       #Post#: 40114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: tonys
       Date: October 10, 2024, 4:39 am
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       There's an element of that I guess, but this is the Flame Pit
       where I thought a bit of speculation and discussion might be
       permissible. From my point of view I don't know how it will all
       turn out so was hoping to be prepared.
       I would be interested in opinions about how I should deal with
       my own insurer. Should I inform them right away, or wait till I
       see how it turns out?
       #Post#: 40118--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: 666
       Date: October 10, 2024, 5:01 am
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       You're obliged to tell your insurer, and I can see nothing to be
       gained by delaying.
       BTW you mentioned "the legal obligation to provide his details
       and his insurance?". There is no obligation to give insurance
       details unless someone is injured.
       #Post#: 40142--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: tonys
       Date: October 10, 2024, 6:16 am
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       --- Quote from: 666 link ---
       > BTW you mentioned "the legal obligation to provide his details
       and his insurance?". There is no obligation to give insurance
       details unless someone is injured.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Thanks.
       #Post#: 41583--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: tonys
       Date: October 20, 2024, 2:20 pm
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       This is still dragging on with a delay before the body shop can
       get on to it. Meanwhile the garage has refused to pass on the
       name or any other details of the other party. Their excuse being
       "it's not going through insurance". My insurance was actually OK
       with it being reported without third party details, so long I'm
       not making a claim.
       At the risk of breaching Andy Foster's unpublished but
       nevertheless iron rules of debate by raising a speculative
       question, where would that leave me if it doesn't go to plan?
       The garage's refusal to pass on the information would make
       impossible to claim against the third party. Would I have
       grounds for a claim against the garage?
       #Post#: 41599--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: Southpaw82
       Date: October 20, 2024, 4:38 pm
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       A claim against the garage for what? There are ways to force
       them to name the third party but you don’t seem to need them
       right now.
       #Post#: 42116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: tonys
       Date: October 24, 2024, 1:00 am
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       Really just trying to see if I can get it fixed quicker, without
       ending up paying for the repair myself. It's been over a month
       now, and they're estimating that they'll be taking it to the
       body shop on 18th Nov so nearly another month, plus the time
       actually taken for the repair.
       I wondered about claiming against the garage as it's their
       actions that are preventing me making my own arrangements.
       Firstly by agreeing and accepting a cash payment from "the lady"
       and secondly by refusing to pass on her details.
       It's a new situation for me so I suppose I may be a bit
       impatient. The concensus here seems to be that I should just
       wait and accept what happens.
       #Post#: 42122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: andy_foster
       Date: October 24, 2024, 4:16 am
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       I think that the consensus here is that you should start with
       the full story rather than drip feeding. Not just you.
       #Post#: 42235--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Car Damaged While in the Care of Garage 
   DIR By: nigelbb
       Date: October 24, 2024, 11:26 pm
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       I may be cynical but my immediate assumption was that there was
       no 3rd-party involved & that the garage damaged the car
       themselves.
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