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#Post#: 39976--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: October 9, 2024, 6:56 am
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I wouldn't be paying bailiffs.
If you get stuck I'm happy call Dart on your authority but
you'll need to message me with details.
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Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: Sheppy100
Date: October 9, 2024, 7:49 am
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Thanks Stamford man but I think we’ve made some progress…
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Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: Sheppy100
Date: October 9, 2024, 7:53 am
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Hi Incandescent,
No it’s not ALL we did we declared as sorn while we was awaiting
for the new French registration to come through…. Write or wrong
that’s not really the point… the vehicle was in France on the
date of contravention.. that’s the point. However we have a made
some progress in the last hour… will update later
#Post#: 39996--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 9, 2024, 8:37 am
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--- Quote from: Sheppy100 link ---
>
> Hi Incandescent,
> No it’s not ALL we did we declared as sorn while we was
awaiting for the new French registration to come through…. Write
or wrong that’s not really the point… the vehicle was in France
on the date of contravention.. that’s the point. However we have
a made some progress in the last hour… will update later
>
--- End Quote ---
Yes, I accept that, but if DVLA had your details still on their
database as SORN in the UK, then when an on-line message came in
from DART, they obviously have responded to it with the details,
hence the pot mess you're now in, which you must exit from. Your
case may have exposed a defect in the system, so keep us
informed so others may benefit.
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Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 9, 2024, 8:45 am
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OP, [crossed with the previous post] I agree with what's being
discussed but this doesn't change the fact that DART's cameras
claim to have clocked CX10YYG using the crossing and that this
was attached to a car of the same make and model and you remain
the registered keeper.
Start with DART's evidence and take up whatever help if offered.
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Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: Sheppy100
Date: October 9, 2024, 9:28 am
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A helpful chap at Dart has looked at the photo… the photo is
apparently of poor quality and the type of car or colour is not
clear let alone the no. Plate, it would appear that the person
processing the photo just took a best guess… the chap we spoke
to spoke to his manager and they’re going to cancel the pcn… he
found it very odd that DVLA had no PCN marker when he was
looking at a PCN on his screen.
#Post#: 40019--------------------------------------------------
Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: October 9, 2024, 10:50 am
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> it would appear that the person processing the photo just took
a best guess…
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An absolute disgrace and they should be hanging their heads is
shame. Best guess, indeed ! Just serve a PCN and see what
happens !! Clearly the Horizon affair is just the tip of the
iceberg.
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Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: Pressman
Date: October 9, 2024, 6:02 pm
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It's important to note that your current residence in France
places you outside the jurisdiction for enforcing traffic
penalties.
CDER Group Limited likely obtained your address through
investigative methods. They are known to track down debtors when
creditors claim they have relocated.
In this context, Highways England may have made a speculative
application for a warrant based on the address CDER identifies
as your last known residence.
To alleviate her concerns about unwelcome visitors, your mother
can make a statutory declaration to remove her address from the
enforcement process.
She must refrain from engaging with unexpected callers,
particularly those appearing overly authoritative or resembling
law enforcement.
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Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: roythebus
Date: October 10, 2024, 8:16 am
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Sometimes a simple phone call is the easy answer.
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Re: Dartford crossing…. Bailiff
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: October 10, 2024, 9:28 am
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[member=2185]Pressman[/member], it's not his mother who's being
pursued, it's the OP who remains
the registered keeper of CX10YYG despite, apparently, the
vehicle having been permanently exported, re-registered and then
sold.
Their mother's in the frame because 'The letter arrived at my
mothers address in Bournemouth where our driving licenses our
registered.'
The OP's priority must surely be to cut these umbilical cords by
sorting out DVLA, not trying to get their mother sitting outside
a legitimate enforcement process.
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