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       #Post#: 39698--------------------------------------------------
       Police think I'm the driver of my former lease car that has been
       caught speeding
   DIR By: alsey42147
       Date: October 7, 2024, 10:59 am
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       Hi, wonder if anyone can help. I had a lease car that I finished
       the contract on, and returned to the lease company. I recieved
       an Police Intention to Prosecute with an Application for the
       Identity of the Driver in the post, for a speeding offense that
       happened over a month after I returned the car. Obviously I was
       not the driver.
       I replied to the notice saying I wasn't the driver, attached
       details of my lease contract showing it had ended and the car
       was returned, and gave contact details of the lease company.
       A couple of weeks later, the police write back to me saying they
       "have been provided with documentation to show that you were the
       driver at the time and/or in posession at the time of the
       alleged offense". WTF?
       They've asked me to fill in the driver identity form again, with
       wording in the letter suggesting that I was either lying or made
       "an honest mistake", neither of which are true.
       Is there anything else I can do to show them I wasn't the
       driver? This is completely absurd but unfortunately I don't have
       much faith in the system to avoid absurd conclusions.
       #Post#: 39699--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Police think I'm the driver of my former lease car that has
       been caught speeding
   DIR By: 666
       Date: October 7, 2024, 11:12 am
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       --- Quote from: alsey42147 link ---
       >
       > Hi, wonder if anyone can help. I had a lease car that I
       finished the contract on, and returned to the lease company. I
       recieved an Police Intention to Prosecute with an Application
       for the Identity of the Driver in the post, for a speeding
       offense that happened over a month after I returned the car.
       Obviously I was not the driver.
       >
       > I replied to the notice saying I wasn't the driver, attached
       details of my lease contract showing it had ended and the car
       was returned, and gave contact details of the lease company.
       >
       > A couple of weeks later, the police write back to me saying
       they "have been provided with documentation to show that you
       were the driver at the time and/or in posession at the time of
       the alleged offense". WTF?
       >
       > They've asked me to fill in the driver identity form again,
       with wording in the letter suggesting that I was either lying or
       made "an honest mistake", neither of which are true.
       >
       > Is there anything else I can do to show them I wasn't the
       driver? This is completely absurd but unfortunately I don't have
       much faith in the system to avoid absurd conclusions.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The finger of suspicion points to the lease company, and a
       simple admin mistake on their part. Have you spoken to them?
       #Post#: 39701--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Police think I'm the driver of my former lease car that has
       been caught speeding
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: October 7, 2024, 11:18 am
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       What you re obliged by law o do (as you were not "he person
       keeping he vehicle) is to provide the police with "any
       information which is in your power to give and which may lead to
       identifying the driver."
       I suggest the only information you can give them is the details
       of the lease company.
       It would be interesting to learn what documentation they have to
       show that you were driving. Unless anybody was with you when you
       were not driving and made a statement that you were, I can't
       really see what they might have.
       The lease company can only say who they believe was keeping the
       vehicle at the time. They cannot say who was driving it. As
       above, it may be worth checking with them what they have told
       the police.
       #Post#: 39703--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Police think I'm the driver of my former lease car that has
       been caught speeding
   DIR By: alsey42147
       Date: October 7, 2024, 11:24 am
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       Thanks both for your replies. I called the lease company today;
       they confirmed they have on record that I returned the vehicle
       on the correct date (before the incident in question). I will
       try to press them again on whether or not they have had any
       contact with the police on this matter.
       #Post#: 39704--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Police think I'm the driver of my former lease car that has
       been caught speeding
   DIR By: NewJudge
       Date: October 7, 2024, 11:30 am
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       > I will try to press them again on whether or not they have had
       any contact with the police on this matter.
       --- End Quote ---
       I wouldn't bother. I would just respond to the latest enquiry
       from the police saying that the information you provided in your
       response to their earlier request is all you can tell them and
       it still stands.
       #Post#: 39705--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Police think I'm the driver of my former lease car that has
       been caught speeding
   DIR By: 666
       Date: October 7, 2024, 11:35 am
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       --- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
       >
       > [quote]I will try to press them again on whether or not they
       have had any contact with the police on this matter.
       --- End Quote ---
       I wouldn't bother. I would just respond to the latest enquiry
       from the police saying that the information you provided in your
       response to their earlier request is all you can tell them and
       it still stands.
       [/quote]
       I wouldn't bother either, but I would ask them to confirm it in
       writing just in case. An email would do.
       #Post#: 39707--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Police think I'm the driver of my former lease car that has
       been caught speeding
   DIR By: alsey42147
       Date: October 7, 2024, 11:42 am
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       Thank you both again. Got the email now from the lease company
       confirming registration and date returned to them. Would you
       expect this to be resolved without court or some otherwise
       disproportionate level of hassle?
       #Post#: 39766--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Police think I'm the driver of my former lease car that has
       been caught speeding
   DIR By: The Slithy Tove
       Date: October 8, 2024, 2:16 am
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       --- Quote from: alsey42147 link ---
       >
       > Got the email now from the lease company confirming
       registration and date returned to them.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Send that email back to the police, reiterating your previous
       response, and suggest that they contact the lease company
       themselves. That's all you can do. Hopefully someone will join
       the dots before they head down the wrong path.
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