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       Re: Camden council, notice of rejection not sent
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 29, 2024, 7:34 pm
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       > Just to add.
       > You can have your SD witnessed FOC at any convenient County
       Court. Phone and check opening hours first and make an
       appointment if necessary. Else a Solicitor or a Magistrate's
       Court will witness but charge £5-10. Don't sign the SD until
       you're in the presence of the witness.
       >
       > Scan the completed Statutory Declaaration  to a PDF file and
       attach it to an email to the TEC. Put Statutory Declaration and
       the PCN number in the email subject line. The email address is
       on the SD form. You should get an acknowledgement receipt by
       email within a few minutes. That way it won't be lost in the
       post.
       >
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       #Post#: 43046--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Camden council, notice of rejection not sent
   DIR By: estevenin
       Date: October 29, 2024, 7:59 pm
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       --- Quote from: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com link ---
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       > Hello,
       >
       > I’m still yet to receive the order of recovery, however, I’ve
       just read through another’s users post on a similar situation
       that seemed to advanced unfavourably.
       > After sending his witnessed declaration that he had not
       received ´notice of rejection’, he was asked to prove he didn’t
       receive post? How is it possible to prove such a thing?
       >
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       I had done that in the past. Same case as yours, waited for the
       order of recovery, went to the county court. They asked me to
       prove that I didn't receive it, and the proof was a "3 lign
       lette"r where I wrote and signed something like "I did not
       receive the letter". They then had me swear on the bible if I
       remember correctly, and that was it.
       The proof IS your statement I believe. That is just my own
       experience, other senior members will be able to confirm that or
       not.
       #Post#: 43056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Camden council, notice of rejection not sent
   DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
       Date: October 30, 2024, 2:43 am
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       Thank you again.
       I presume it’s ok for the form to be witnessed by any
       lawyer/commissioner for oaths? It doesn’t need to be
       specifically done in the county court.
       #Post#: 43057--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Camden council, notice of rejection not sent
   DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
       Date: October 30, 2024, 2:45 am
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       Yes would be great if senior members could confirm, and explain
       whether there have been any long drawn out exceptions.
       #Post#: 43058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Camden council, notice of rejection not sent
   DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
       Date: October 30, 2024, 2:49 am
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       Last post was in reply to ‘estevenin’.
       By long drawn out exceptions, I mean scenarios where the
       deceleration hasn’t been regarded as sufficient proof.
       #Post#: 43062--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Camden council, notice of rejection not sent
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: October 30, 2024, 3:06 am
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       What if this is the case and my declaration is challenged?
       TEC have no power to do this.
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       Re: Camden council, notice of rejection not sent
   DIR By: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com
       Date: October 30, 2024, 4:17 am
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       So the clause about perjury, and a false testament is just an
       empty threat to deter you from fibbing?
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       Re: Camden council, notice of rejection not sent
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: October 30, 2024, 4:31 am
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       No. But if you're considering lying then on your own head be it.
       However, if it's the truth then that's it.
       If an owner does not receive a NOR and, as required, the
       authority refers the contravention to the adjudicator for
       determination i.e. an appeal, then the adjudicator has the power
       to require you to produce your representations, but this is just
       a formality.
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