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#Post#: 39282--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: October 3, 2024, 11:38 am
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On the face of it, it appears that a prosecution is now
time-barred. Proceedings must begin within six months of the
date of the alleged offence.
However, some things don't seem right.
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> I received a follow up letter to make the same offer again.
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What offer?
Before you enter any plea (by whatever method) you need to find
out from the contact centre what "review" has taken place and
what was the outcome. You need to find out why your SJPN was
provided so late, why it was not served by post (as is usual)
and why you have not received the accompanying material that
should have been served with it (which, as you have not
mentioned it, I assume was not served).
It may help if you post up what you have received but I would
not enter any plea until you know the answer to all those
questions, as well as the one that Southpaw has posed..
#Post#: 39286--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: RichardC
Date: October 3, 2024, 12:41 pm
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--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
>
> Is there a written charge? Does it say when the charge was
authorised?
>
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A copy of the charge was included in the SJPN - it states that
charge date is the 03/10/2024
#Post#: 39287--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: RichardC
Date: October 3, 2024, 12:52 pm
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
>
> On the face of it, it appears that a prosecution is now
time-barred. Proceedings must begin within six months of the
date of the alleged offence.
>
> However, some things don't seem right.
>
> [quote]I received a follow up letter to make the same offer
again.
--- End Quote ---
What offer?
Before you enter any plea (by whatever method) you need to find
out from the contact centre what "review" has taken place and
what was the outcome. You need to find out why your SJPN was
provided so late, why it was not served by post (as is usual)
and why you have not received the accompanying material that
should have been served with it (which, as you have not
mentioned it, I assume was not served).
It may help if you post up what you have received but I would
not enter any plea until you know the answer to all those
questions, as well as the one that Southpaw has posed..
[/quote]
I received an initial letter saying I could pay £200 fine and
take 6 points unless I had 6 or more points. A month or so late
in August 2023 I got a follow up letter with the same offer
saying that I had not responded to the first letter.
The SJPN was a number of pages and did include a copy of the
original document the policeman gave me at the bottom.
The Contact centre were so useless I taped the call.I asked them
what an earth was happening and they said the that my case was
already being reviewed. I said what did this mean, as I had been
given a date until the 24/10/2024 to enter a plea, so how could
it be being reviewed already! They then said to try and Plead
again in a week or so's time or I could ring them and enter a
plea. That seemed absurd.
#Post#: 39292--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: Boomer
Date: October 3, 2024, 1:50 pm
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--- Quote from: RichardC link ---
>
> I received an initial letter saying I could pay £200 fine and
take 6 points unless I had 6 or more points. A month or so late
in August 2023 I got a follow up letter with the same offer
saying that I had not responded to the first letter.
>
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Did you reply to the "initial letter"
Did you reply to the "follow up letter"
Have you replied to ANY letter?
Can we see the text of your replies (if any)?
You really are making it difficult for us to understand the
exact position that you are in!
#Post#: 39298--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: October 3, 2024, 2:06 pm
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I read it like this:
Received a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty in July 23
Received a reminder in August 23.
Ignored both
Received an SJPN, including a written charge dated 3//10/24 and
received that same day.
#Post#: 39302--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: RichardC
Date: October 3, 2024, 2:08 pm
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--- Quote from: Boomer link ---
>
> [quote author=RichardC link=topic=3335.msg39287#msg39287
date=1727977926]
> I received an initial letter saying I could pay £200 fine and
take 6 points unless I had 6 or more points. A month or so late
in August 2023 I got a follow up letter with the same offer
saying that I had not responded to the first letter.
>
--- End Quote ---
Did you reply to the "initial letter"
Did you reply to the "follow up letter"
Have you replied to ANY letter?
Can we see the text of your replies (if any)?
You really are making it difficult for us to understand the
exact position that you are in!
[/quote]
Apologies for my lack of clarity!
I never replied to either letter because it said unless you have
6 points or more. The last letter was August 2023
These were the only correspondence I have received until the SJ
NEWSFLASH!!!!
I have new information! I have just seen this email!
Good afternoon
Thank you for your email.
Please accept my sincere apologies. Due to an administration
error the case wasn’t sent out within the statutory time limit.
I have withdrawn your case from the court system and you have no
further action to do.
Kind regards
#Post#: 39303--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: RichardC
Date: October 3, 2024, 2:09 pm
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Thank you all so much for your help!!!
#Post#: 39307--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: RichardC
Date: October 3, 2024, 2:30 pm
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--- Quote from: NewJudge link ---
>
> I read it like this:
>
> Received a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty in July 23
> Received a reminder in August 23.
> Ignored both
> Received an SJPN, including a written charge dated 3//10/24
and received that same day.
>
--- End Quote ---
That was how it was.....
#Post#: 39308--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: RichardC
Date: October 3, 2024, 2:31 pm
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--- Quote from: RichardC link ---
>
> [quote author=NewJudge link=topic=3335.msg39298#msg39298
date=1727982374]
> I read it like this:
>
> Received a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty in July 23
> Received a reminder in August 23.
> Ignored both
> Received an SJPN, including a written charge dated 3//10/24
and received that same day.
>
--- End Quote ---
That was how it was.....
[/quote]
Thank you particularly New Judge. I really appreciated it..
#Post#: 39315--------------------------------------------------
Re: Caught using a mobile Phone on June 2023 - summons arrived
in October 2024
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: October 3, 2024, 3:21 pm
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--- Quote ---
>
> Thank you particularly New Judge. I really appreciated it..
>
--- End Quote ---
You're welcome!
Glad you got it sorted out.
Make sure you keep that e-mail.
Lucky old you - especially as you were facing a "totting up"
ban. I think the technical term for what has happened is a
"balls up"! :)
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