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       #Post#: 39119--------------------------------------------------
       PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: azuremumbai80
       Date: October 2, 2024, 1:59 am
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       1.TOPIC TITLE.  - Bus Lane Camera -PCN
       Council name or other authority - Swindon Borough Council
       The alleged contravention (summarise - no need to quote in full)
       - 34J , Being in a Bus Lane
       Location - Penzance Drive, Swindon
       2. Outline your case/tell your story/explain the problem and how
       we might help.
       I got a PCN for a being a bus lane on the Saturday with no clear
       signage of the Bus lane indicator and timings.
       There was no bus to block and was difficult to identify the
       camera location and the location of the vehicle.
       Images are blurred and unable to recognise.
       I request a guidance on the approach.
       3. Post the PCN and all subsequent notices or correspondence.
       Car Images and PCN
  HTML https://imgur.com/a/3hVOQQ0
  HTML https://1drv.ms/i/c/8af311400893ecfb/EcuND1pViadBmFHH4tLe218BNZYpinXKMZ2rq7qYY24XvQ?e=TAwiBz
  HTML https://1drv.ms/i/c/8af311400893ecfb/EZ28Ht1uS8pIrhe92pvg5sQBI1x2q60BQ9KHPW3m2btGdA?e=02rgN6
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       #Post#: 39120--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: John U.K.
       Date: October 2, 2024, 2:04 am
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       Have a read of
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       and use an external site such as imgur or ibb.co.uk and paste
       the BBCodes here.
       #Post#: 39123--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 2, 2024, 2:45 am
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       Bus lane sign and advance warning sign: -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/kUfiRWrRhAPwga6L7
       then, at the roundabout: -
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/mYtmQucGNeNfzXX38
       #Post#: 39127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: d612
       Date: October 2, 2024, 3:03 am
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       Looks like the photos are of the other end of the Penzance Drive
       bus only road.
       Seen here in the streetview link from the entry to that bus
       access only road
       The camera position is further up the bus road looking back
       towards the public access road - Rodbourne road B4289
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/TvTpJsvaSYdRSZPR9
       #Post#: 39140--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: October 2, 2024, 5:28 am
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       --- Quote from: d612 link ---
       >
       > Looks like the photos are of the other end of the Penzance
       Drive bus only road.
       > Seen here in the streetview link from the entry to that bus
       access only road
       > The camera position is further up the bus road looking back
       towards the public access road - Rodbourne road B4289
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       >
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/TvTpJsvaSYdRSZPR9
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       Indeed. I was in a rush this morning so had to stop
       investigating.
       Here is the advance warning sign on the B4289 Rodbourne Road.
       Only Bing Maps has the name.
  HTML https://maps.app.goo.gl/6EwAwVdPcyXxzb4j8
       #Post#: 39143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: Foxy01
       Date: October 2, 2024, 5:38 am
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       This is a very big earner for Swindon. The advance warning sign
       has been changed, historic Google Street View shows how it used
       to be (pre 2019). There used to be a second No Left Turn sign
       after the pedestrian crossing, however this has now been
       removed. The road markings have also been changed to 'Bus Gate'.
       Swindon Borough Council swear everything is compliant here, but
       it is a massive earner and impacts visitors to Swindon.
       Press article
  HTML https://hellorayo.co.uk/greatest-hits/swindon/news/swindon-bus-lane-penzance-drive-fines/
       #Post#: 39221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: azuremumbai80
       Date: October 2, 2024, 12:28 pm
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       Agree ..For a person from outside Swindon , this is a odd
       location for a camera when one enters Swindon car park...
       From the article it mentions atleast 0.5 million from the
       camera...
       #Post#: 39222--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: azuremumbai80
       Date: October 2, 2024, 12:30 pm
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       Has anyone successfully appealed against the camera or its
       location in respect to the road ?
       #Post#: 39228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: azuremumbai80
       Date: October 2, 2024, 12:58 pm
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       I have raised an FOI today on the number of PCN raised for
       'Penzance Drive bus lane camera, and how many are lost/rejected
       due to Appeals.
       #Post#: 39547--------------------------------------------------
       Re: PCN - Swindon Borough Council Bus Lane
   DIR By: azuremumbai80
       Date: October 6, 2024, 6:59 am
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       Any updates from members with previous experience in appealing
       the PCN for this category.
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