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Sunday Telegraph: Fining motorists using CCTV evidence ruled 'il
legal'
By: ivanleo Date: August 6, 2023, 1:10 am
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HTML https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/05/tfl-motorists-cctv-penalty-charge-notices-illegal-london/
Also on the daily mail:
HTML https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12377011/amp/Sadiq-Khans-TfL-broke-law-using-CCTV-traffic-wardens-fine-drivers-landmark-ruling-motorists-owed-millions-pounds-refunds.html
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Re: Sunday Telegraph: Fining motorists using CCTV evidence ruled
'illegal'
By: slapdash Date: August 6, 2023, 5:46 am
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I don't think the article made it entirely clear it is a subset
of redroute penalties that it applies to.
I understand there is a JR of the decision in progress and you
are encouraging individuals to join.
But what then ?
If TFL loses is it then binding (pending further appeal)?
This will presumably mean job ads for more CEOs and TFL lobbying
for a law change to enable CCTV enforcement.
It would be frustrating if they obtained that wish and CCTV
enforcement restarted. Possibly nationwide.
It would presumably also mean all previous PCNs would be void,
but would that force TFL to refund them all or would it be "on
demand".
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Re: Sunday Telegraph: Fining motorists using CCTV evidence ruled
'illegal'
By: ivanleo Date: August 6, 2023, 5:51 am
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I am reliably informed that Parliamentary timetabling issues
mean that even if a change in the law were on the cards, it
won't happen any time soon. And the PM has just come out with
some "I'm on the side of motorists" headline, so a change in the
law is unlikely in the extreme.
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Re: Sunday Telegraph: Fining motorists using CCTV evidence ruled
'illegal'
By: Hippocrates Date: August 6, 2023, 2:17 pm
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My objectives would be:
1. Immediately cease enforcement.
2. Reimburse.
3. Bring this to the attention of Parliament so the next
Transport Select Committee orders the CA and Khan to attend.
Similarly, Bus Lane saga.
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Re: Sunday Telegraph: Fining motorists using CCTV evidence ruled
'illegal'
By: andy_foster Date: August 7, 2023, 1:05 am
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[quote author=slapdash link=topic=331.msg2698#msg2698
date=1691318764]
If TFL loses is it then binding (pending further appeal)?
[/quote]
Yes. The JR (if permission is granted) would be a question of
whether the adjudicators were wrong in law (whether their
interpretation of the legislation is correct or not). If the
adjudicators' interpretation is upheld then the adjudicators
would be bound to interpret the legislation as they currently
do.
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Re: Sunday Telegraph: Fining motorists using CCTV evidence ruled
'illegal'
By: Hippocrates Date: August 7, 2023, 3:44 am
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The story is now on Twitter. Surely, some TV company should
pick this up?
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Re: Sunday Telegraph: Fining motorists using CCTV evidence ruled
'illegal'
By: ivanleo Date: August 7, 2023, 4:03 am
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It's on LBC, that's something.
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Re: Sunday Telegraph: Fining motorists using CCTV evidence ruled
'illegal'
By: andy_foster Date: August 7, 2023, 12:47 pm
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Report from Mahyar Tousi on youtube yeaterday.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJyqaxSLiXQ
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