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       #Post#: 44217--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 6, 2024, 7:29 am
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       Without reviewing the whole thread, surely all there is to it is
       that TFL has sent you what they have on file and you have a much
       more recent pic.
       Which given the OP's proof is totally unacceptable. Nothing less
       than a proper check could IMO satisfy their duty to 'consider'
       representations.
       I suspect that the OP will probably be OK with a cancellation,
       however mealy-mouthed, but if me I'd make a formal complaint.
       This sloppiness should be exposed and addressed.
       OP, but for this forum what would you have done? Pay I suspect.
       #Post#: 44219--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: Phf69
       Date: November 6, 2024, 7:41 am
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       Very true, HCA - I couldn't have got all the relevant
       information without everybody's help. Thanks to all who posted!
       I may well consider a formal complaint after I've got justice
       from TFL!
       #Post#: 44221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 6, 2024, 7:46 am
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       Fine.
       But for the moment you need to focus on the appeals procedure
       and make sure your appeal is registered.
       #Post#: 44224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: Phf69
       Date: November 6, 2024, 7:53 am
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       Thanks - will do asap - I'm also selling a flat and buying a
       house atm! But I'll do it soon - they have given me 28 days to
       appeal.
       #Post#: 44258--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 6, 2024, 11:43 am
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       Just to reassure you, all you need to do at this stage is
       register your appeal. This requires nothing more than logging
       in, ticking a couple of boxes and then clicking send. You do not
       need to add chapter and verse, this comes later. If you want to
       choose a hearing date in January, it's your choice and one you
       may amend later.
       #Post#: 44260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: November 6, 2024, 11:56 am
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       --- Quote from: H C Andersen link ---
       >
       > Just to reassure you, all you need to do at this stage is
       register your appeal. This requires nothing more than logging
       in, ticking a couple of boxes and then clicking send. You do not
       need to add chapter and verse, this comes later. If you want to
       choose a hearing date in January, it's your choice and one you
       may amend later.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You can't register an online appeal about a TFL case. Has to be
       done by post I think or maybe by calling the tribunal.
       #Post#: 44266--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: H C Andersen
       Date: November 6, 2024, 12:23 pm
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       OP, to be certain which methods are permissible you should post
       their Notice of Rejection of Representations pl.
       #Post#: 44290--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: Phf69
       Date: November 6, 2024, 3:39 pm
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       Thanks - yes, it has to be done in writing with the evidence
       sent along with it. I’ll post the 3 pages later tonight.
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       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: Phf69
       Date: November 6, 2024, 3:57 pm
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       Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
       time - received PCN! (threads merged)
   DIR By: Phf69
       Date: November 10, 2024, 7:51 am
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       I am now in a position to send in my appeal with the following
       text:
       [b]On 17/9/24 from 16:59 to 17:03 I parked in the location shown
       by the attached photos, outside Grillos O/S 485-493 Bromley Road
       BR1, where the parking sign indicated that parking was allowed
       for 1 hour from 10am to 7pm. Over a week later, on 26/9/24, I
       received a PCN saying that I had ‘stopped where prohibited on a
       red route’. I immediately went down to the location and took a
       photo of the sign – attached with date and time – showing that
       parking was allowed from 10am to 7pm. I appealed against the PCN
       and then received a rejection of the appeal on 28/10/24 with an
       undated photo showing that parking was only allowed from 7am to
       4pm. I have also taken another photo – attached with date and
       time - showing that the permitted hours are still from 10am to
       7pm. I am therefore appealing against the PCN as, in my opinion,
       a contravention did not occur according to the sign in
       place.[/b]
       I wondered whether to include that I submitted a FOI request
       which came back as 'unable to answer' as I did not link it to a
       PCN which I didn't want to do to alert TFL as to my intentions.
       I also have not included the detail about a previous appeal
       having been successful in 2023 as there was no sign in place -
       do I need to point them in the direction of a wrong sign having
       been erected at that point? I wanted to keep my appeal clear and
       simple and not make it seem that I had researched things. Any
       thoughts, please? In addition, I am unsure whether to go for a
       personal hearing or not?
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