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#Post#: 43984--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 4, 2024, 3:41 pm
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Thanks - what do you mean exactly?
#Post#: 43988--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 4, 2024, 3:53 pm
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Your PCN was issued under reg. 10.
You've made formal reps which have been rejected.
Your only choices are to pay or appeal.
Appeal grounds
The contravention did not occur...as in
The only traffic sign indicated that conditional parking was an
exception to the RR prohibition and you parked in compliance
with those conditions i.e. between 10am and 7pm. as evidenced by
the PCN which errantly alleges a contravention occurred at
17.02.
#Post#: 43992--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 4, 2024, 4:06 pm
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Thanks - I am certainly thinking of appealing on those grounds.
That is basically what I said in my first appeal - that it did
not occur. I’ll wait a little longer before finally deciding - I
think I will get the CCTV footage as well as it may be useful.
It’s a nuisance having to send off for it, though.
#Post#: 44032--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 5, 2024, 3:48 am
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You register your appeal now.
Grounds: contravention did not occur.
I rely upon my formal representations but may submit further
representations upon receipt of the authority's CCTV and
evidence bundle.
You then select a date for a personal hearing(which would be by
phone I suggest).
You may postpone this date if TfL's CCTV has not been received,
so I suggest selecting a date in December.
#Post#: 44035--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 5, 2024, 4:15 am
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The video won't add anything - will just show the same view as
the stills although may show you parking or leaving.
#Post#: 44041--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 5, 2024, 4:32 am
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Thanks for the messages - I have asked for CCTV footage, but it
may not be that relevant. I just don't want to miss something
TFL may use against me. I'll have a think about how to go ahead
with my appeal. Is a personal hearing more likely to be
successful? I would still write the details on the appeal form
and at that stage is it possible TFL will not contest it?
#Post#: 44043--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 5, 2024, 4:39 am
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Which is showing something because the camera is more than
capable of capturing the applicable traffic sign, but perhaps
hasn't.
As I posted and without wanting to get too energised at this
stage - in particular because the OP has not posted their FoI
request as asked- but something is seriously amiss here
irrespective of the PCN. (which OP will be cancelled based upon
your evidence. To top and tail this do you have a photo with a
time/date stamp?)
There is NO evidence for at least 12 years that anything but a
10am-4pm sign has been in the first bay. So how did the OP
manage to produce a photo with a 10-7 prohibition with exactly
the correct background?
Because it's there is the obvious answer.
If TfL did not actually check what sign was present before
responding to the FoI then IMO someone's going to be carpeted
over this.
#Post#: 44045--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 5, 2024, 4:44 am
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Thanks, HCA - I'm a bit more sceptical about my chances, but all
the help you, and all the others, have given me makes me feel
much more positive.
#Post#: 44113--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 5, 2024, 11:42 am
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How can you be sceptical if you know that the sign you posted
was in situ when you parked?
#Post#: 44134--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 5, 2024, 2:14 pm
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I don't know what TFL will come up with! When I appealed first
of all I was pretty convinced that I had a very good case which
is why I didn't look into it as well as I could/should have. I
was really surprised when they came up with that 'archive' sign
to prove their point - I see that it's taken from a computer
image and probably dates back quite a while. I bet they've used
it again and again to argue their case about this bit of road.
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