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#Post#: 43899--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 4, 2024, 8:18 am
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Seems like OP was in first bay to me.
#Post#: 43910--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 4, 2024, 9:56 am
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I was in the first bay seen in the photo - near the phone box.
The second bay is for loading only, but I’m definitely not in
that.
Now the parking restrictions are 10am to 4pm with the sign I
took a photo of. The sign TFL managed to come up with shows 7am
to 4pm, but that is undated. I’ve asked for FOI for when the
restrictions were changed.
#Post#: 43915--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 4, 2024, 10:28 am
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??
#15 shows a picture from TfL's CCTV.
The car is not in the first bay. If it was then:
There would be another bay ahead of it, but there isn't;
There would be two telephone boxes, but there aren't, there's
only 1.
#Post#: 43918--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: November 4, 2024, 10:41 am
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See it now, HCA?
OP - not sure an FOI was a good idea.
HTML https://i.imgur.com/5zChJif.jpeg
#Post#: 43928--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 4, 2024, 11:17 am
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Thanks. Why is FOI not a good idea? Is that because it will give
TFL the answer to back up their case? I didn't really consider
that, but, if they were going to come up with that evidence
anyway, it just helps me decide whether to appeal. If they
cannot find anything specific to the time frame I'll definitely
appeal.
#Post#: 43933--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 4, 2024, 11:45 am
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Thanks, thanks for the clarification, the visible longitudinal
bay now makes it clear.
In short:
OP parked 17 Sept 2024;
GSV shows that since before 2014 the exception for BOTH bays has
been 7am-4pm;
This is confirmed by GSV as recently as Sept. 2023;
However, the most recent GSV, June 2024 shows the sign is
missing;
TfL's CCTV evidence does not include the first sign, it does
show the second which gives the excepted period of 7am-4pm;
TfL have provided a photo of a sign in response to a FoI
request, this shows a sign with 7am-4pm. However, it is undated.
The OP took a photo of the sign which they claim is now in situ
on 26 Sept. This shows the excepted period is 10am-7pm.
Nobody has asked for the CCTV footage. OP, I suggest you do this
now.
Also, register your appeal .
IMO, you are barking up completely the wrong tree with 'did the
traffic order change'?
Try a simpler explanation.
The restriction always has been 7am-4pm.
It still is.
The sign was missing in June.
A numbskull erected the wrong sign.
Nobody checked.
The contravention was observed by CCTV so a CEO hasn't checked.
This disposes of the PCN but does not resolve TfL's FOI
response.
Let's see a copy please.
#Post#: 43934--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 4, 2024, 11:54 am
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Thanks so much for the summary! How do I ask for CCTV footage?
The photo TFL supplied was with my appeal rejection.
#Post#: 43936--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 4, 2024, 12:00 pm
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Details are in the PCN pages. I can't tell you which one because
I can only see the first of four.
#Post#: 43938--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 4, 2024, 12:07 pm
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Ok, thanks - I will do.
#Post#: 43953--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: H C Andersen
Date: November 4, 2024, 1:34 pm
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And register your appeal.
Contravention did not occur as per your reps.
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