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#Post#: 38484--------------------------------------------------
Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: September 26, 2024, 12:36 pm
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On 17/9/24 at 17:02 I was parked for a short time in a
red-marked bay on Bromley Road. I received a PCN today and went
down to check the signage which says 1 hour parking up to 7pm! I
was not parked in the loading area marked by the lines by the
phone boxes. I have taken appropriate photos and the PCN ones
show my car was not parked in the loading area.
My question is should I just appeal and attach the photos? What
grounds do I cite? I honestly think the operative has looked at
17:02 and thought it was past 7pm?!
#Post#: 38497--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN!
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: September 26, 2024, 1:26 pm
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Sorry, but no good without some hard facts, so please read this
and update your post accordingly: -
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
#Post#: 38506--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN!
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 26, 2024, 2:50 pm
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[member=2855]Phf69[/member] all TFL red route PCNs can be beaten
at the moment, but please read the guidance posted by
Incandescent and update your post accordingly.
#Post#: 43362--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN!
DIR By: Phf69
Date: October 31, 2024, 12:23 pm
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I'm really sorry, Incandescent, but I did not take the advice
you gave - mainly because it seemed a simple case and I was too
busy to go through all the steps at that time.
So I appealed and simply sent the photo I had taken of the sign
showing that parking was allowed up to 7pm and only received the
reply last Monday 28th. They said that they had turned down the
appeal and included their photo (undated) showing that stretch
did not allow parking after 4pm. Could they have changed the
regulations between the date of the 'offence' (17/9/24) and when
I took my photo - 26/9/24, giving a longer period to park there?
That is still the case now - how do you find out if the
regulations have been changed?
What is the best way to proceed now - I have until a week on
Monday to pay the £80 or submit an appeal to an 'Environment and
Traffic Adjudicator at London Tribunals'. I am of the opinion
that I'd like to appeal and will do whatever is advised on this
forum.
#Post#: 43652--------------------------------------------------
Appeal rejected - way forward?
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 2, 2024, 12:10 pm
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I appealed against a PCN which was rejected. I simply sent the
photo I had taken of the sign showing that parking was allowed
up to 7pm and received the reply last Monday 28th. They said
that they had turned down the appeal and included their photo
(undated) showing that stretch did not allow parking after 4pm.
Could they have changed the regulations between the date of the
'offence' (17/9/24) and when I took my photo - 26/9/24, giving a
longer period to park there? That is still the case now - how do
you find out if and when the regulations have been changed on a
particular stretch of road?
What is the best way to proceed now - I have until a week on
Monday to pay the £80 or submit an appeal to an 'Environment and
Traffic Adjudicator at London Tribunals'. I am of the opinion
that I'd like to appeal and will do whatever is advised on this
forum.
#Post#: 43660--------------------------------------------------
Re: Appeal rejected - way forward?
DIR By: catnip
Date: November 2, 2024, 1:30 pm
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You'll need to provide some details so that they can be
reviewed, please read this and post accordingly:
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 3, 2024, 5:09 am
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Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: Phf69
Date: November 3, 2024, 5:13 am
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Just to explain my last post - the two photos of the sign show
my photo taken on 26/9/24 indicating parking 7am-7pm which is
what it is still now. The other sign is what TFL sent me showing
parking from 7am to 4pm - this is undated. My photo is of course
dated on my iPhone.
#Post#: 43715--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: fraser.mitchell
Date: November 3, 2024, 5:35 am
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There are two bays there, delineated by the double-dashed line
perpendicular to the road, in front on your van and a sign for
it. What does that sign say ? I think TfL are confused here, and
haven't noticed the double-dash linr.
#Post#: 43716--------------------------------------------------
Re: Parked for a short time in red bay within the normal allowed
time - received PCN! (threads merged)
DIR By: roythebus
Date: November 3, 2024, 5:44 am
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Was there another sign where your van was parked? The one in the
picture says when you can park. But are they our pics or TfL
pics?
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