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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: Grant Urismo
Date: August 31, 2023, 4:20 pm
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Just because I haven't seen this point mentioned in this
thread... a CEO can (and should) check for a blue badge and
dashboard clock and record useful evidence about them if they
are present, fixed CCTV can't reliably do this and it's
unreasonable to expect blue badge holders to have to appeal a
constant stream of tickets for lawful behaviour.
If this point isn't considered at the judicial review then I
expect disability discrimination might provide a second avenue
to banning the use of CCTV for parking enforcement.
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: September 1, 2023, 4:57 am
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--- Quote from: Grant Urismo link ---
>
> Just because I haven't seen this point mentioned in this
thread... a CEO can (and should) check for a blue badge and
dashboard clock and record useful evidence about them if they
are present, fixed CCTV can't reliably do this and it's
unreasonable to expect blue badge holders to have to appeal a
constant stream of tickets for lawful behaviour.
>
> If this point isn't considered at the judicial review then I
expect disability discrimination might provide a second avenue
to banning the use of CCTV for parking enforcement.
>
--- End Quote ---
TFL have batted this one away for many years, claiming that
their cameras can spot a BB but failing to explain how... with
many videos being taken from the rear of the car.
But is part of the argument that CP put forward and no doubt
will be considered in the upcoming review
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 1, 2023, 11:24 am
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--- Quote from: Grant Urismo link ---
>
> Just because I haven't seen this point mentioned in this
thread... a CEO can (and should) check for a blue badge and
dashboard clock and record useful evidence about them if they
are present, fixed CCTV can't reliably do this and it's
unreasonable to expect blue badge holders to have to appeal a
constant stream of tickets for lawful behaviour.
>
> If this point isn't considered at the judicial review then I
expect disability discrimination might provide a second avenue
to banning the use of CCTV for parking enforcement.
>
--- End Quote ---
If you read both the panel decision and Mr Chan's review, you'll
see that this has been specifically considered.
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 4, 2023, 8:05 am
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Order of The Honourable Mr Justice Martin Spencer
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1Yk-O-BqaGYVNjhfoGK81psLkWF_MbUbR.
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: John U.K.
Date: September 4, 2023, 10:09 am
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The fees link in the order is wrong - should be
HTML https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/fees-in-the-civil-and-family-courts-full-list-ex50a
Incidentally, CP, had you seen this
HTML https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/tfl-code-46-parked-on-a-red-route-(loading-box)-or-clearway-egerton-road-n16-par/
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 4, 2023, 11:26 am
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Oh well, I'm sure TFL's solicitor will work out what to do next.
I'm not going to worry about other interested parties because it
seems unlikely they would have anything of substance to add.
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 9, 2023, 6:35 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> Order of The Honourable Mr Justice Martin Spencer
HTML https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1Yk-O-BqaGYVNjhfoGK81psLkWF_MbUbR.
>
--- End Quote ---
I trust that the learned Mr Chan's statement was excellent? ;D
Observations 3 and 4 are noted. Therefore, I presume the CA
will not necessarily have to attend?
Please inform me/us when an exact date is finalised for the
hearing.
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: ghostivv
Date: October 26, 2023, 1:22 pm
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Any news on the outcome?
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: October 26, 2023, 1:30 pm
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See here:
--- Quote from: John U.K. link ---
>
> These sites carry reports. The first is regularly updated.
>
HTML https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/transport-for-london-tfl-high-court-parking-tickets-cctv-b1116055.html#comments-area
> Similar to Standard but less adverts
>
HTML https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/tfl-could-refund-500-000-065411720.html
>
> No mention of barrister or case for LT - sounds as if CPS had
to make their own case?
>
> Case concluded 4p.m,. judgement reserved - expected in a few
weeks.
>
--- End Quote ---
cp8759 was of course there so may be able to provide more
context at a later date
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Re: TFL judicial review
DIR By: DancingDad
Date: October 26, 2023, 2:08 pm
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For once a newspaper report that doesn't seem full of errors
Hats off and a round of applause for Karen, not easy for a
layperson in court
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