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       #Post#: 44510--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: b789
       Date: November 8, 2024, 4:15 am
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       Use DropBox to host PDFs.
       Nothing unexpected in those letters. Wait for your N180 DQ,
       which you can download now and fill in online.
       They will discontinue before they have to pay the trial fee.
       Any PPC using DCB Legal to issue their claims is not too worried
       about how much it costs to file a claim. The profits from the
       vast majority that pay up put of ignorance of the litigation
       process or that fail to properly respond to a claim and get a
       CCJ by default, by far outweighs the cost of trying it on by
       filling a claim.
       Filing a claim is, in effect, a 'loss leader' for them. Only a
       tiny fraction of victims come here or over on MSE.
       #Post#: 44531--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: Eryobotrya
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:04 am
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       > Wait for your N180 DQ, which you can download now and fill in
       online.
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       They've already filed theirs. They've ticked Y to mediation, but
       I genuinely see zero grounds for any prospect of compromise,
       since I have no intention of paying a single penny of their
       fraudulent claim.
       Would it prejudice our defence if I ticked N to mediation?
       #Post#: 44534--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:12 am
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       Mediation is now mandatory. You simply turn up (by phone), offer
       nothing, and it's all over very quickly.
       #Post#: 44536--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: Eryobotrya
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:16 am
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       Gotcha, though I find it odd that we are given a choice if it's
       mandatory.
       #Post#: 44538--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:19 am
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       They've probably used an old version of the form - the new one
       doesn't contain the option:
  HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66a8b019ce1fd0da7b592f43/N180_0724.pdf
  HTML https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/66a8b019ce1fd0da7b592f43/N180_0724.pdf
       #Post#: 44542--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: b789
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:26 am
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       It has been mandatory to "attend" a mediation call for all
       claims issued after 22nd May 2024. Note that it is only
       mandatory to attend the call.
       Mediation is not part of the judicial process and no judges or
       lawyers are involved. Far too many people think that if the
       don't agree to settle that it would go against them at trial.
       Absolutely nothing of the sort. It has no bearing on any future
       proceedings.
       You offer £0 and it is over in minutes and you have compiled
       with the requirement to "attend" the call. Should the mediator
       try to persuade you that you're not likely to win, you should
       immediately ask them what legal qualification do they have that
       permits them to make that determination. Also, a complaint about
       their behaviour in even suggesting anything of the sort should
       be made.
       #Post#: 44551--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: Eryobotrya
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:42 am
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       Understood.
       Do I need to respond to either or both of those letters from
       DCBL, even though their d/lines are now past?
       I don't s'pose I'm allowed to politely request that they advise
       their client to go boil their collective fracking head, right?
       #Post#: 44559--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: b789
       Date: November 8, 2024, 5:57 am
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       You don't need to respond to either of those letters. They will
       probably, in due course, try to get in touch to offer a
       settlement. Ignore that.
       They will eventually discontinue.
       #Post#: 45040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: Eryobotrya
       Date: November 11, 2024, 9:15 am
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       Uh oh. I've just come across their LBA dated 7th Feb. I honestly
       don't remember if I answered it. I think I was dealing with
       another claim at the time from PPL-PRS Ltd, which we eventually
       won. Since I may be in breach of PAP para. 4, does that mean
       we're sunk without trace?
       PS: Is it possible I answered it online, and therefore have no
       record of it? Other than an automated acknowledgment perhaps?
       #Post#: 45045--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: b789
       Date: November 11, 2024, 9:50 am
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       Not responding to an LBA (Letter Before Action?) or LoC does not
       matter. there is no obligation to respond.
       This will go through the normal process and will be
       discontinued. I'm prepared to bet on it.
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