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       #Post#: 38901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: Eryobotrya
       Date: September 30, 2024, 5:50 am
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       BTW, I found some scathing reviews of this PPC on Tripadvisor.
       They document and confirm the underhand tactics they employ to
       extract punitive damages from their victims. Would it be
       worthwhile attaching a few of those reviews to my defence? Or at
       a later stage perhaps - if it goes that far?
       #Post#: 38905--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: September 30, 2024, 6:13 am
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       --- Quote from: Eryobotrya link ---
       >
       > I found some scathing reviews of this PPC on Tripadvisor. They
       document and confirm the underhand tactics they employ to
       extract punitive damages from their victims. Would it be
       worthwhile attaching a few of those reviews to my defence? Or at
       a later stage perhaps - if it goes that far?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Probably not - bear in mind that the only time people engage
       with these companies is when they have been issued with a demand
       for money. That's unlikely to lead to positive customer
       experiences.
       #Post#: 38907--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: b789
       Date: September 30, 2024, 6:16 am
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       I think you're overthinking this. The first point is to get the
       claim struck out for failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). The
       second request is for further PoC for failure to fully comply
       with the rest of CPR 16.4. The second request (order) asks that
       should the claimant fail to fully comply with all the points in
       the order, that the claim be struck out.
       If you're not comfortable with a defence and draft order, you
       are free to compile your own. To date, this defence and draft
       order have not failed to get the claim discontinued or struck
       out.
       Your choice.
       #Post#: 38908--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: b789
       Date: September 30, 2024, 6:20 am
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       "Scathing reviews" are not a defence. It's a bit like saying to
       the policeman who has pulled you over for speeding that it's not
       fair because other drivers were going faster than me.
       Should this ever escalate to the point of a hearing, you can of
       course refer to those reviews in your WS. However, I fear you
       are either going to ignore my advice and edit or provide your
       own authored defence or you are relying on advice from
       elsewhere.
       I have provided advice and templates that are known to work. Use
       them or lose them.
       #Post#: 38911--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: Eryobotrya
       Date: September 30, 2024, 6:31 am
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       No, I'm not getting advice elsewhere, and the second strike out
       request now makes sense. Until now, it was not made clear to me
       that it was contingent on the claimant's failure to comply with
       the judge's orders. I will be filing YOUR defence today.
       I'm hoping it will ruin the rest of their week.
       Watch this space for further developments.
       #Post#: 38913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: b789
       Date: September 30, 2024, 6:34 am
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       My money is on a discontinuation. Anyone care to offer odds on a
       different outcome?
       #Post#: 38915--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: Eryobotrya
       Date: September 30, 2024, 6:40 am
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       You mean the claimant will drop their claim?
       #Post#: 38918--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: September 30, 2024, 6:50 am
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       --- Quote from: Eryobotrya link ---
       >
       > You mean the claimant will drop their claim?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Usually, yes.
       If the claimant is using DCB Legal, a discontinuation is very
       likely based on previous form. They'll string it out as long as
       they can in the meantime.
       #Post#: 38923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: Eryobotrya
       Date: September 30, 2024, 7:26 am
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       You mean the PPC doesn't care about increasing their costs?
       Really?
       #Post#: 38924--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
       isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
   DIR By: DWMB2
       Date: September 30, 2024, 7:35 am
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       In 2023 Civil Enforcement issued 33,220 court claims, that's 91
       a day. Last financial year, they made roughly 49,000 requests
       per month to the DVLA for vehicle keeper details. This process
       is a machine, with Civil Enforcement caring very little about
       the details of an individual case. A minority of cases costing
       them money matters little to them if the majority simply pay up.
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