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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: July 11, 2025, 4:05 pm
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Yup.
And the answer to #97?
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: b789
Date: July 12, 2025, 8:38 am
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You've only shown one page of the directions. This will be
discontinued before the trial fee has to be paid by the
claimant. There won't be any hearing!
What is the deadline for submitting trial bundles/witnenss
statements? this is why we ask that you show everything that may
be relevant. Usually it is buried in the small print that both
parties must submit to the court and to each other copies of the
documents they will be relying on no later than 14 days before
the hearing date. If it is different, we need to know. However,
I still bet it will be discontinued before the trial fee date
deadline.
#Post#: 80801--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: July 13, 2025, 8:04 am
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Yeah, I only uploaded the facing page. The rest of it looked
like bog-standard verbiage to me that I thought would already be
familiar to you guys. Seems I was wrong - and not for the first
time either.
Ok, I'll post up the rest of the docs soon as. Gotta admire your
confidence that they'll drop the claim just before the hearing
fee becomes due, considering they are threatening to follow
through in their missive to the defendant.
Scare tactics all the way, right? We'll see.
#Post#: 80803--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: b789
Date: July 13, 2025, 8:28 am
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I even take odds of 10:1, if anyone is willing to take them,
that the claim will be discontinued before they have to pay the
trial fee.
Their modus operandi is well known to those of us who deal with
them on a daily basis.
#Post#: 82372--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: July 23, 2025, 11:31 am
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With apologies for my tardiness. I've had quite a few
distractions recently. There were 3 more pages of directions
given by the court, and I'm fairly confident no time limits have
been exceeded. Again, hopefully the link will work.
HTML https://imgur.com/a/BnSOPDn
Thx for you help b789. Really appreciated.
PS: I replied to the email from DCBL. I rejected their
discounted offer to settle on behalf of the defendant.
#Post#: 82375--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: jfollows
Date: July 23, 2025, 11:48 am
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Hearing via Cloud Video Platform?
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: July 23, 2025, 11:58 am
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That's how I understood it, yes. Sounds like a good idea to me,
for obvious reasons.
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: b789
Date: July 23, 2025, 1:17 pm
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Is Bromley your 'home court'? I see it is listed as a video
hearing. That is not ideal.
You can object to a CVP (Cloud Video Platform) hearing and ask
for a face-to-face hearing instead, but it is up to the court to
decide whether to allow it.
To make the request, you need to do the following:
[indent]• Ask as soon as possible, ideally as soon as the
hearing notice is received.
• Write to the court that listed the hearing, giving the claim
number and the date of the hearing.
• Explain clearly why you need a face-to-face hearing. Reasons
might include difficulty using technology, needing to show or
examine physical evidence, communication difficulties, or the
case being too complex to manage by video.[/indent]
The court has the power to decide how a hearing is held. It can
choose a video hearing, but it must make sure the hearing is
fair for both sides. If the judge believes a face-to-face
hearing is necessary to make the process fair, they can order
it.
Send the following to your local county court if it is not
Bromley:
--- Quote ---
> Claim Number: [insert claim number]
> Parties: [Claimant v Defendant]
> Hearing Date: [insert hearing date, if known]
>
> Dear Sir or Madam,
>
> I am the Defendant in the above claim, which is currently
listed as a video (CVP) hearing. I am writing to respectfully
request that the hearing be held in person at [your local county
court] court instead.
>
> I would feel more comfortable presenting my case face to face,
as I am not particularly confident using video technology for
formal proceedings. I believe I would be able to express myself
more clearly and follow the process more effectively in a
courtroom setting.
>
> I would be grateful if the court would consider this request.
Please let me know if any further information is needed.
>
> Yours faithfully,
>
> [Your full name]
> [Your address]
> [Date]
--- End Quote ---
#Post#: 82419--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: July 23, 2025, 5:02 pm
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Yes, Bromley is our home court, but I actually requested The
Strand coz of easier access, etc. Seems we didn't get it.
I take your points about CVP, but what about the advantages? Eg,
we turn up for a hearing (possibly with expensive counsel) only
to find out that our case has been deferred coz of preceding
overruns. Apart from which, the defendant has already expressed
her reluctance to take a day off work in order to attend a
hearing in person.
I had to assure her that I would personally make good any loss
of celery.* I'd even be willing to throw a tomato at the
claimant. But seriously, does a CVP really put us at a
disadvantage that does not apply equally to the claimant? So
approx. evenhandedness is preserved, no?
*Assuming we win if it goes to a hearing, can she claim loss of
income as a legitimate expense? Cost of legal representation?
She won't want to represent herself.
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: July 23, 2025, 5:56 pm
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There remains the strong possibility it is discontinued.
--- Quote from: Eryobotrya link ---
>
> *Assuming we win if it goes to a hearing, can she claim loss
of income as a legitimate expense? Cost of legal representation?
She won't want to represent herself.
>
--- End Quote ---
Costs in the small claims track are very limited, you may wish
to consult Rule 27.14 of the Civil Procedure Rules
HTML https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part27#27.14<br
/>for more detail. Loss of earnings is capped at £95 per day.
Legal representation would likely cost more than the value of
the claim, and is generally not needed for these cases.
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