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#Post#: 38033--------------------------------------------------
Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: September 24, 2024, 7:18 am
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Hey guys,
This is rapidly turning into a nightmare. This is a 'legacy'
case from Pepipoo, so we no longer have access to all our
evidence, etc., and we have no back-up files coz the driver's
mobile was returned to Vodafone for a repair under warranty.
They 'succeeded' in wiping it clean for the period Sept 21-Sept
22 after a reset. That just happens to include the period when
the signage fotos were taken, and those signs have since been
changed after the car park changed hands!! Unbelievable. One
disaster after another. Briefly, circs as follows:
1. Terms were £1.00 per hour, £3.00 for the whole day.
2. Driver didn't know how long she'd be there with young
daughter, so she paid for an hr at a time.
3. Made her 3rd (and final) pymt around 15-20 mins late.
4. PCN issued for breach of their terms, even though she had
paid the charge for the whole day.
5. The extant signs did not specify HOW the charge was to be
paid, but we might have trouble proving that now.
6. The driver MISLAID the PCN and her POPLA apppeal code with
it.
7. The PPC point blank refused to disclose it/issue a copy of
the PCN.
8. PCN eventually found, but too late. The appeal period had
elapsed.
9. LBA received around 6mnths ago.
10. I'll post up copies of N1 and whatever else I can find later
today.
Meantime, I have to acknowledge service. For my info, should we
assume that all Pepipoo data is permanently lost? The only thing
that occurs is whether the driver might be able to access her
fotos that were hopefully uploaded on a file sharing site.
#Post#: 38043--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: b789
Date: September 24, 2024, 7:59 am
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Are the photos not stored in the cloud somewhere? What is the
name of the location? There may be other posts about it here or
over on MSE.
When you post the N1SDT claim, only redact your personal
details, the claim number, the vehicle VRM and the MCOL
password. Leave everything else showing, including the "issue
date".
If you can, also show the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) to see
how they've worded the claim compared to the original allegation
and whether there is any keeper liability.
Here is a link to a PDF that explains how to do the
Acknowledgement of Service (AoS):
HTML https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0
#Post#: 38045--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 24, 2024, 8:00 am
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I'd work on the assumption that PePiPoo is gone for good. The
owners haven't been heard from for some time, and this site was
set up due to the ongoing issues over on PPP.
#Post#: 38048--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: September 24, 2024, 8:07 am
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For the avoidance of any doubt, they are not my personal
details. I wasn't the driver, but I get what you're saying re
taking out any personal info.
As for the cloud, etc., I've asked the driver. She has yet to
respond. When she does, I'll pass it on.
#Post#: 38050--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: September 24, 2024, 8:11 am
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Bummer on the PPP front.
Starting over again from scratch is a regular pain in the
gluteus maximus.
#Post#: 38084--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: September 24, 2024, 10:01 am
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Does anyone here know who the owners are? Data dump request
from, say, Jan. 2021 or 22 out of the question or not possible?
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: September 24, 2024, 10:06 am
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AoS filed. I'll see what docs I can find while the driver gets
her act together.
#Post#: 38093--------------------------------------------------
Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: DWMB2
Date: September 24, 2024, 10:16 am
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As I said previously, the owners of PePiPoo haven't been heard
from for a long time - this isn't due to nobody trying to
contact them.
Some of PPP might have been archived by the WayBack Machine but
given there are over 20 years of posts on there the chances
yours will have been archived is slim. Your efforts are probably
better focused on the matters in hand.
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: Eryobotrya
Date: September 24, 2024, 11:16 am
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Understood DW, which is why I thought a dump of the last 2-3 yrs
might be feasible if contact could be established, but ok, looks
like a non-starter.
If I can't find the NtO, can I make it the subject of a CPR31.14
request?
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Re: Civil Enforcement Ltd - N1SDT Claim form recieved for PCN
isssued for Swanley Park parking in New Barn Rd
DIR By: b789
Date: September 24, 2024, 12:51 pm
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--- Quote ---
> NtO
--- End Quote ---
You are dealing with a PPC. Are you referring to a Notice to
Driver (NtD) windscreen PCN or a Notice to Keeper (NtK) postal
PCN?
An NtO is normally issued for a statutory offence which is
nothing to do with private parking unless, maybe, a Penalty
Notice has been issued at a railway station by either APCOA or
SABA.
Show us the N1SDT claim form, redacting only your personal
details, the claim number, the VRM and the MCOL password. Leave
everything else, especially the "issue date" and the Particulars
of Claim (PoC). You most likely don't need the original NtK and
if you really think you do, you can SAR it from the claimant.
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