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       #Post#: 62986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right
       turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: March 17, 2025, 6:02 pm
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       It is pointless submitting TE9s until the debt is registered.
       When they register it, the amount on the CC goes up by £10 being
       the registration fee, so when you can see the amount owing on
       their website has gone up by £10, you can submit a TE9. You
       should also get an Order for Recovery in the post too. There is
       only a fixed time allowed for TE9 submission, from the date the
       debt is registered. I think it is 21 days, but I'm not sure.
       #Post#: 62994--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right
       turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
   DIR By: george74
       Date: March 17, 2025, 6:34 pm
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       I don't think this is consistent advice.
       When I had the same issue with LBBD, it just showed as unable to
       pay rather than increase the fine by £10.
       Additionally with the Wandsworth charge it says it will increase
       by £8.
       I don't think it is reasonable that I should be checking every
       day/week for the foreseeable future until they decide to
       register the charge.
       Is there no time limit for them to register it? I mean if not
       then fine I can't do anything.
       #Post#: 68826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right
       turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
   DIR By: george74
       Date: April 26, 2025, 11:44 am
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       They still have not registered the PCNs.
       I also have my own PCN with Dagenham where I received a charge
       certificate in mid Jan 2025 due to not receiving the NTK - I am
       waiting for this to be registered as well. Despite contacting
       Dagenham council asking them to register it (they said it will
       be), nothing has happened.
       #Post#: 68862--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right
       turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: April 26, 2025, 4:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: george74 link ---
       >
       > I don't think this is consistent advice.
       >
       > When I had the same issue with LBBD, it just showed as unable
       to pay rather than increase the fine by £10.
       >
       > Additionally with the Wandsworth charge it says it will
       increase by £8.
       >
       > I don't think it is reasonable that I should be checking every
       day/week for the foreseeable future until they decide to
       register the charge.
       >
       > Is there no time limit for them to register it? I mean if not
       then fine I can't do anything.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Wandsworth is out-of-date, the charge used to be £8, but is now
       £10. You don't have to check with TEC every day, only every
       10-14 days. The process is that when they register, they send
       you an Order for Recovery in the post, and also the form to
       submit a Statutory Declaration. OUr advice about contacting TEC
       and also looking on the council website is because we have had
       people on here who never got the OfR in the post, so had to
       submit Out-of-Time declarations. The problem with these is that
       the council can and do object to them, folowing which the
       declaration is rejected.
       We're only trying to make sure you don't fall into any traps.
       You don't have to follow our advice, you can always just wait
       for the OfR to turn up. Councils can be dilatory in registering
       PCN debts, but they cannot get the money unless they do so, so
       normally one doesn't have to wait long.
       #Post#: 84897--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right
       turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
   DIR By: george74
       Date: August 9, 2025, 8:38 am
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       Finally some update but really need some advice.
       They sent the order of recovery for 3 of them.
       I submitted TE9 forms but it was rejected as I apparently need
       to send PE2 and pe3 forms which require a witness from a
       solicitor or officer of the court!
       Why these forms instead of the TE9? This is very time consuming
       and solicitors are asking for £15 per form.
       And my uncle is out of the country! We're already past the 21
       day mark for one of the tickets.
       #Post#: 84923--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right
       turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
   DIR By: fraser.mitchell
       Date: August 9, 2025, 1:24 pm
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       --- Quote from: george74 link ---
       >
       > Why these forms instead of the TE9? This is very time
       consuming and solicitors are asking for £15 per form.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       It's the legislative mess we're in, (as usual for the UK !). The
       London-specific legislation for traffic and bus lane offences,
       demands submission of PE2 and PE3. But TEC aren't going to tell
       you that. Their website is truly awful, totally confusing to
       anybody that doesn't know what to submit.
       Anyway, you know now, or as the Scots would say, "ye ken the
       noo" !
       #Post#: 86466--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right
       turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
   DIR By: george74
       Date: August 20, 2025, 6:00 am
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       This is so annoying, the forms were rejected. Reason: You have
       not completed both forms. Please complete the attached both
       forms PE2 and PE3 and return both forms together.
       We do not keep invalid applications. Please return all appeal
       forms together, along with any supporting documents/evidence.
       I was under the assumption only pe3 needs to be completed and
       PE2 for ones outside the 21 day limit?
       #Post#: 89691--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Wandsworth - 50R Performing a prohibited turn (no right
       turn) - Boundaries Road Jct. Chestnut Grove
   DIR By: george74
       Date: September 12, 2025, 10:59 am
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       We messed up. After submitting the pe3 forms, we got this letter
       for 3 of them:
       --- Quote ---
       >
       > I write with reference to your Witness Statement which was
       filed with the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC) under ground 3
       that you appealed against the Local authority's decision to
       reject my representaions within 28 days of service of the
       rejection notice but had no response to your appeal.
       > In light of the TEC revoking order I am writing to explain
       that we have no record of your appeal to the adjudicator. In
       order for us to consider this matter further, please provide
       your appeal that you have referred to in your witness statement
       to TEC, within 21 days of this Ietter. You can also email it to
       ParkingComplianceRec@richmondandwandsworth.gov.uk.
       >
       > Once received we will refer your appeal to the adjudication
       service with an application payment of the PCN at £136:00 which
       may also include costs.
       >
       > Should you fail to provide the appeal as requested above, we
       will refer your witness statement to the adijudication service
       with an application payment of the PCN at the charge certificate
       amount (£195.00).
       > Alternatively I will accept the discounted amount of £65.00 if
       payment is received within 14 days of the date of this letter.
       > You may pay by debit or credit card via our website at
       www.wandsworth.gov.uk/pcnonline or over the telephone, by
       ringing 0800 021 7763 at any time.
       > clearly identified wih the Notice number should be sent to the
       following address:
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       We were meant to tick boxes 2, not 3. Not sure what to do now?
       Desperately need some input.
       Also find it super odd where they say "alternatively I will..."
       rather than "We"
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