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47J - Stopped on a restricted bus stop stand
DIR By: mdar50743
Date: September 19, 2024, 6:28 am
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Hi everyone,
[img]
HTML https://ibb.co/8nZpt9Q[/img]
I was driving my vehicle and turned the corner to drop off
passengers. As I turned, the passengers said they wanted to get
off here and opened the doors. I received a PCN as I stopped at
a Bus stop with a wide yellow line.
PCN:
HTML https://ibb.co/8nZpt9Q[img]https://ibb.co/8nZpt9Q[/img]
Images and Video:
HTML https://viewmypcn.co.uk/default.aspx?r=16a39ac69f4b86b6b68a6142fc0ffd9b070db8aa
Could anyone please let me know any grounds for an appeal for
this PCN?
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Re: 47J - Stopped on a restricted bus stop stand
DIR By: stamfordman
Date: September 19, 2024, 6:55 am
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That's a slam dunk contravention. Unless there is something
wrong with the PCN or signage I can't see a way out.
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Re: 47J - Stopped on a restricted bus stop stand
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: September 21, 2024, 5:25 am
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Video:
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIODpsqpWac
I can see an easy way out:
HTML https://i.imgur.com/3RIQVLX.png
[member=880]mdar50743[/member] virtually all adjudicators will
allow an appeal based on the website not giving the statutory
grounds of appeal, see rows 631 to 650 here
HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVrE76_RYY6bNmEpYGbsZkxtpfIeud_BT3SKfg7TzQM/edit?gid=642784037#gid=642784037&range=A631.
If you wish to pursue this, just make a one-line representation
saying that the contravention did not occur abd wait for the
notice of rejection, an appeal can then be made to the tribunal.
There's no point in adding anything of substance to the
representations because the council will reject no matter what
you say.
Make the representations online and keep a screenshot of the
confirmation page.
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Re: 47J - Stopped on a restricted bus stop stand
DIR By: mdar50743
Date: September 25, 2024, 10:02 am
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--- Quote from: cp8759 link ---
>
> Video:
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>
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIODpsqpWac
>
> I can see an easy way out:
>
>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/3RIQVLX.png
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> [member=880]mdar50743[/member] virtually all adjudicators will
allow an appeal based on the website not giving the statutory
grounds of appeal, see rows 631 to 650 here
HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVrE76_RYY6bNmEpYGbsZkxtpfIeud_BT3SKfg7TzQM/edit?gid=642784037#gid=642784037&range=A631.
>
> If you wish to pursue this, just make a one-line
representation saying that the contravention did not occur abd
wait for the notice of rejection, an appeal can then be made to
the tribunal. There's no point in adding anything of substance
to the representations because the council will reject no matter
what you say.
>
> Make the representations online and keep a screenshot of the
confirmation page.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you so much [member=1]cp8759[/member] that's very helpful.
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Re: 47J - Stopped on a restricted bus stop stand
DIR By: Hippocrates
Date: September 25, 2024, 4:26 pm
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+1. PCN link seems to have gone.
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Re: 47J - Stopped on a restricted bus stop stand
DIR By: mdar50743
Date: October 28, 2024, 9:10 am
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--- Quote from: mdar50743 link ---
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> [quote author=cp8759 link=topic=3197.msg37697#msg37697
date=1726914308]
> Video:
>
>
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIODpsqpWac
>
> I can see an easy way out:
>
>
HTML https://i.imgur.com/3RIQVLX.png
>
> [member=880]mdar50743[/member] virtually all adjudicators will
allow an appeal based on the website not giving the statutory
grounds of appeal, see rows 631 to 650 here
HTML https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVrE76_RYY6bNmEpYGbsZkxtpfIeud_BT3SKfg7TzQM/edit?gid=642784037#gid=642784037&range=A631.
>
> If you wish to pursue this, just make a one-line
representation saying that the contravention did not occur abd
wait for the notice of rejection, an appeal can then be made to
the tribunal. There's no point in adding anything of substance
to the representations because the council will reject no matter
what you say.
>
> Make the representations online and keep a screenshot of the
confirmation page.
>
--- End Quote ---
Thank you so much [member=1]cp8759[/member] that's very helpful.
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I have got a reply from Ealing Council and they have rejected
the appeal:
HTML https://ibb.co/vhCnmNh
Please can you let me know how to proceed.
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Re: 47J - Stopped on a restricted bus stop stand
DIR By: ivanleo
Date: October 29, 2024, 6:38 am
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Well there are no absolute guarantees, but given how successful
this ground of appeal has been it would seem silly not to carry
on.
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