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Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Just234
Date: September 20, 2024, 12:32 pm
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It would be really helpful if you could explain the 6 month
timescale.
#Post#: 37642--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: September 20, 2024, 12:39 pm
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Six months from the date of each offence.
NB: the date of the speeding offence and the date of the s 172
offence are different.
#Post#: 37648--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Just234
Date: September 20, 2024, 1:29 pm
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Thankyou
So it is the failure to provide offence that is the factor here
and is within the 6 month timescale
The speeding fine is not being from April
So that being the case I am required to plead only on that
failure to provide charge.
I’ve read somewhere else that usually a failure to notify would
be issued and recorded a month after the date of the speeding
offence.
Why is mine dated 4 months later? Is this normal practise?
#Post#: 37652--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: September 20, 2024, 2:21 pm
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The s 172 offence is often committed about a month after the
speeding offence. Assuming by “issued” you mean proceedings
commenced by written charge, no.
#Post#: 37658--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Just234
Date: September 20, 2024, 3:36 pm
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By issued i mean committed the offence
(I'm sorry I don’t know how to word things properly and my
memory/processing is not great.
I keep having to read and re read and it’s confusing for me.)
I’ll explain
So…
I was caught speeding sent an s172 request for info
I’m assuming (I did not receive it) I would have been given ‘X’
amount of days to respond. Let’s say 28 days. You would think on
the 29th day I’ve passed the deadline date and therefore have
committed a offence of failing to provide which would give
reason for a charge with a s172 failure to reply offence…..?
So why if I’ve been sent a s172 request on 12/04/2023 has the
charge of failure to notify been dated 4 months later?
The Postal requisition sent and dated 11/12/23 stating charge of
failure to supply details 29/08/23
I’m just trying to work out the 6month timescales - do I have an
argument to say the August date is wrong and that 6 months from
the date of the original speeding offence plus 1month would mean
the postal requisition sent in December is out of time?
#Post#: 37659--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Southpaw82
Date: September 20, 2024, 3:40 pm
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For an offence committed on 29/08/23 they have until the
following February to commence pro, so they were well in time in
January.
#Post#: 37662--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: NewJudge
Date: September 20, 2024, 4:05 pm
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What is the date of the s172 request?
#Post#: 37685--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Gilan02
Date: September 21, 2024, 4:26 am
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The failure to provide drivers details being 4 months later
suggests to me either the address on the V5c is wrong or you are
not the registered keeper, the latter may be useful to you.
#Post#: 37703--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Just234
Date: September 21, 2024, 8:08 am
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The S172 request for information was sent 12/04/23
#Post#: 37706--------------------------------------------------
Re: Failure to notify and driving ban appeal
DIR By: Just234
Date: September 21, 2024, 8:20 am
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--- Quote from: Southpaw82 link ---
>
> For an offence committed on 29/08/23 they have until the
following February to commence pro, so they were well in time in
January.
>
--- End Quote ---
This is what I’m trying to work out - if I was caught speeding
04/23 then given 28 days to respond my failure to respond
offence would be on the 29th day so 05/23
Why have they then recorded my failure to respond offence as
08/23 ?
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