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       #Post#: 37378--------------------------------------------------
       No waiting ticket - but no signs
   DIR By: pullingmybarnetfair
       Date: September 18, 2024, 10:20 am
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       The details are:
       Barnet London Borough
       Parked in a special enforcement area adjacent to a footway,
       cycle track or verge lowered to meet the level of the
       carriageway
       Shirehall Lane / Hendon Park
       I think there could be grounds to challenge, as the PCN online
       (image 9) states "No waiting", which is not true. There were no
       signs or plates informing about waiting or parking restrictions
       in that area.
       Also the car was parked away from the flat part of the dropped
       kerb, but was close to the angled part going down.
       And the ground was dirty at the point the road and pavement
       merged, so it was difficult to see what was what.
       This is clearly designed to try and catch people out as other
       sections of the same road had double yellow lines, but there
       were no road markings or plates indicating parking wasn't
       allowed here. The dropped kerb would allow cyclists or
       e-scooters to mount the pavement and cycle into Hendon Park -
       something that isn't even allowed anyway. There is a post in the
       middle of the path to stop larger vehicles entering the park.
       Finally, the offer to pay half price has disappeared - hopefully
       not a policy change.
       Photo links - images 1-8 are the Notice To Owner and 9 is the
       online 'evidence'.:
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       #Post#: 37399--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No waiting ticket - but no signs
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 18, 2024, 11:37 am
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       It's not a no waiting PCN but for parking adjacent to a dropped
       footway.
       Is it here - if so it doesn't appear to be a pedestrian crossing
       and it's not marked as a cycle track but they could argue it's
       for motorised mowers or something:
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       #Post#: 37484--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No waiting ticket - but no signs
   DIR By: pullingmybarnetfair
       Date: September 19, 2024, 5:23 am
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       Yes, those photos are from the right area.
       #Post#: 37487--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No waiting ticket - but no signs
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 19, 2024, 5:54 am
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       This is the regulation:
       (1) In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked
       on the carriageway adjacent
       to a footway, cycle track or verge where—
       (a) the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet
       the level of the
       carriageway for the purpose of—
       (i) assisting pedestrians crossing the carriageway,
       (ii) assisting cyclists entering or leaving the carriageway, or
       (iii) assisting vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway
       across the
       footway, cycle track or verge
       It isn't (i) from what I can see and there is no signed cycle
       track for (ii), and the post may be a permanent feature and it
       obviously isn't a driveway for cars etc. for (iii).
       So probably worth having a go at this on the grounds that the
       contravention didn't occur.
       #Post#: 37499--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No waiting ticket - but no signs
   DIR By: pullingmybarnetfair
       Date: September 19, 2024, 6:41 am
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       Thanks for that. I will use that to appeal.
       #Post#: 37502--------------------------------------------------
       Re: No waiting ticket - but no signs
   DIR By: stamfordman
       Date: September 19, 2024, 6:54 am
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       Post a draft here first.
       Way back in 2008 there was a cycle sign but not by the road and
       it disappeared by 2009. The posts look like established
       features.
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